This is literally just the r/nyt subreddit about The New York Times.
Given he apparently takes inspiration from Elon Musk, it’s only a matter of time until u/spez starts adding post view limits unless you pay extra.
Hear me out.
Elon destroys twitter and eventually makes it a joke and no one can be trusted cause the process of verification for that is a joke now.
Spez destroys reddit. Shuts down 3rd party apps. The majority of people have to decided whether to stay or leave.
The SAG and WGA go on strike because of wage issues, now shows like Last Week Tonight and other shows that take deep dives into the problems of government can’t make shows that inform people.
All of this is, in my opinion, to shut down public conversations about many issues and the timing is also coincidental since the 2024 election is coming up and in a time everyone is divided, there is no comfortable place to communicate. The curiosity is if trumps social media and other right leaning communities are facing the same disruptions. Not saying reddit and twitter are bastions of the “left” but twitter and in particular reddit have been a place for public good. Now twitter is a hallway that is almost completely covered in fecal matter and reddit is a poorly designed website that blinds you with advertisements and OF spam bots.
Elon I can see doing it maliciously, because he benefits from a Republican government. Edge Lord Jr has probably doing it because Senior told him it was a good idea. The survivability of these companies are not in their interest because why care if you can just close it down claim the sale and go make more money somewhere else.
But the biggest one is the “Late Night” shows. Most of them are the way some Americans get informed about some of the more deeply rooted problems in America. You can look at shows like John Olivers, Last Week Tonight and maybe Late Night with Seth Meyers. Shows very critical of Republicans and trump in particular, completely crippled by the SAG and WGA strikes.
In total the information delivery systems we are all used too, have been dirupted and I’m seriously questioned its timing.
Twitter was ruined for the reasons you state, but thinking it was for the west is untrue. One of the biggest investors was the Saudi king, a ruler in an area where Twitter was used to organize actual revolts and revolutions. The destruction of social media is definitely being done in prep for elections. The strikes seem like coincidences as far as the election goes.
Buy it, kill it. 44 bill is chump change to the
Many people benefit from its downfall, its not exclusively to the election i just used it because I live in the “west” and I can see it disrupting a very critical election because 4 more years has of trump is gonna be bad for everyone…
I think the reason is something much bigger than the American election. Just not sure what yet.
The election is rigged anyway. Choose between turd and asshole, both of which are selected by the establishment.
Until people can vote with cryptographically safe identity control, there is no reason to trust manual vote counting in my opinion.
No, it’s a choice between an orange fascist traitor, and freedom, democracy and decency.
And nice job spreading twitlers “big lie” about the election. People like you are the enemies of democracy.
“Enemies of Democracy” :) That’s a nice one. I want the membership card!
You got it. It’ll earn you a place in history, on the wrong side.
Seems more simple and likely to me that the “normal” corrupt and crony capitalism we’ve allowed to take over our government and big businesses is just reaching even more for the next dollar, like they always do. Although the leadership at Twitter and Reddit seems particularly bad, maybe because their product would appear even more unsustainable with proper transparency.
It’s true that capitalism and public interest are generally incompatible. Though this seems a bit more nefarious, considering that actions at both Twitter and Reddit have only continued to devalue these institutions, no?
I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it, though. America will escape this rut when people realize it’s Big Cor’prit that we should be afraid of and not so much Big Guv’mint; the former is a virus that corrupts the body. And the immune system (checks-and-balances, separation of powers, etc.) have largely failed.
I can’t speak for Twitter, but from a shortsighted business standpoint, the third party Reddit apps weren’t generating any revenue for Reddit, and were shut down to drive more traffic to the ad-filled app
From my readings in the last few weeks, there does seem to be some sort of coordinated effort to control public messaging. There was/is a discussion about how the right wing is suing and chilling any and all efforts to expose and educate about disinformation. The lawsuits were so menacing that they even wanted to go after the students of the classes run by professors they were suing for teaching about present day disinformation in our society. It isn’t just professors, it includes writers and journalists and groups that targeted disinformation. This is being done under the banner of ‘bias’. Opposing, criticizing, or pushing back against far right wing messaging is attacked and sued as intolerable bias.
It’s believed that this is to clear the way for a massive onslaught of disinformation and conspiracy theories entering into the 2024 election cycle. As far as what’s happening to some social media sites, the timing is suspect. Reddit and Twitter were among the most effective at getting out the blue vote. Now they are in shambles.
You think the writer’s strike is part of a conspiracy to prop up Republicans for an election in a year and a half?
No, I’m saying the people that control their wages have been slowly moving towards the point of protest so the shows they write for don’t air because they are fighting a noble battle against shitty wages.
Glad I’m not the only one considering this. Been in conversation with another long-time user of Reddit (>15 years) and let’s just say that if the goal was to suppress grassroots mobilization of progressive coalition, this is what you would do. We already know how compromised the likes of Musk, Zuckerberg are… And we saw just how much we had to pull the teeth of Reddit to do something about The_Donald…
I often wonder if Trump would have been elected in 2016 if Jon Stewart was still on the air. Now imagine if right-wing groups controlled Reddit, Twitter, and clamped down on all late-night talk shows that help pierce right-wing ignorance chambers of this country.
I’m glad I’m not alone either. I’m thinking he could of swayed the independent voters who were confused but, to be honest things have changed in such a crazy weird way, I don’t think it would of mattred. His faithful friend John Oliver was doing his absolute best but the message fell between the mass noise brought on by the maga crowd.
Some people suffer from reddit nostalgia and forget some of the most disgusting subs and activity during the early days was common place but as time went on it rooted them out and forged a better sense of community. Then trump emboldened idiots to be idiots and cultists obey their leader. Questionable people bought up share and spez suffered a stroke after Elon gave him the boner after telling him how much power he has.
Reddit on mobile browser is actual dogwater. Tho most social media apps are extremely hostile towards non-App users.
I go there for a couple of smaller subreddits I still visit (barely starting out on Lemmy, tough). But a lot of content seems to be slowing down, like 2 day-old threads on the home tab (I only go on desktop with adblockers).
This is obviously anecdotal, and have no numbers to back it up. We’ll have to see how it goes into the future. Reddit just keeps pissing off their core users time and time again.
My anecdotal experience is pretty much the same. My home country’s sub (the only one I really look at “new” on) slowed down a lot since the Reddit blackout. Before, you could expect a new post every 15 minutes or so. Now? A whole day can go by with one or two new posts. It’s weird. I still see the usual names in the comments, but posting in general is extremely slow. My “Best” tab in the homepage (this is old reddit mind you, I don’t know if that’s a thing on nuddit) also holds the same few posts at the top for the entire day, whereas it used to cycle a lot faster before the blackout.
I’ve noticed the same thing. Subs that used to have a vibrant /new feed now seem to have just a few recent posts.
Did Elon Musk enforce post view limit ? I don’t know about that
Yes and you can’t view anything unless you go to twitter
Hold my web archiver
Elon is the actual source of all possible evils. Let’s keep this between us for our safety
That gives him too much credit. I’d say he’s just one source of a handful of evils.
I think its at 1.000 posts per day for regular people, 10.000 for Twitter Blue Subscribers
And People without an account cant see any posts anymore
He backtracked the last part, I think because Google was started to delist Tweets from Google searches. You can see a specific post, but not the comments to the post.
Oh really? Last I checked I couldn’t see anything whenever there is a Twitter-Link anywhere
And nothing of value was lost.
Yeah this move has killed all interaction with Reddit for me. I only open a reddit page now if it’s in my google results for something I’m searching, but the last few times I’ve hit this message. There’s thousands of subs that are never going to get reviewed because they’re small and I’m sure at the absolute end of their queue.
Press the dots in the top corner and see if there’s a “desktop version” button. That gets around the block for me.
I’m now only on lemmy and YouTube. Never got into tictok or Facebook, left and deleted reddit and Twitter. I’m in a happy place.
Same but I still follow comicbook creators and comedians on twitter.
Still go to reddit sometimes. It’s night and day compared to here. Everything on reddit is rage bait in one form or another.
I go to reddit for porn and that is it.
That’s wild to me. I’ve been on Reddit for 17 years. And porn is not something I thought was such a huge point. Mothers same goes for this place. The platform just doesn’t seem to lend to that type of consumption. But never less, porns a huge part.
Make an account on lemmynsfw.com
It’s just as good as reddits porn
Not enough Widowmaker lewds on Lemmy yet to ditch Reddit unfortunately.
Lemmy very unfortunately doesn’t have either the breadth or depth or Reddit porn yet. If it does get there it won’t be for years yet.
I’m gunning hard for Lenny, but let’s be honest with ourselves, ok?
It absolutely isn’t. Not yet. In both quality and quantity, we’re still lagging way behind, especially for niche or non-straight content.
Reddit is still the best place for Sounding… As a friend has told me
The second Digg 4.0 speedrun any%
I’d posit they went Digg v4 when they updated the site to remove the ability to see upvote and downvote counts for posts and comments, and artificially inflated scores on the same day. /all/ went from interesting stuff to… promotions, ads, and rubbish. Also when they made /popular/, then turned /all/ into… the same thing.
Are we certain the Muskrat isn’t involved with Reddit in some way or is it just u/spez emulating his hero?
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Sounds like a good reason to delete all your content that they profit off of and stop using it…
For now old.reddit still works.
Honestly I’m amazed. Old Reddit is still functionally unchanged over the past several years and honestly a great experience. And Reddit must know exactly how many people are using it because they’re visiting an alternate domain.
Can’t imagine it has much longer…
Weeks maybe a month before old reddit goes away. Reddit has to as it loses them advertising money and those that use it are those Reddit dislike.
It’s only a great experience for some. The vast majority of people, attention, eyeballs, and money go to things like tiktok and Instagram.
It’s the only way Reddit is even usable since they removed the third party apps.
You can use it on mobile by using Firefox Nightly, enabling the add-ons collection workaround, and installing the old.reddit redirect addon (and uBlock).
Granted, browsing old.reddit on a mobile screen is not a great experience but it’s leagues better than the alternative.
At that point I’m more comfortable on Lemmy instead of bending over backwards to accommodate for shitty Reddit UI anymore. I used to use old reddit but that was when I actually had time to waste in highschool pretending to do work on the school computers, now I have a newborn and would never scroll on my PC to just browse Reddit, or any social media for that matter…
Copy cat. Nothing original
Looks like they’re using a bullshit excuse to funnel people into their mobile app.
How else are they gonna track you if you don’t use their shitty app
You can use old.reddit.com without issue… for now…
You could also use a non-Reddit mirror like http://www.scrolldit.com/ which works… for now…
Someone should answer the phone because we all fucking called it.
What’s next in the Reddit bingo?
The removal of old reddit?
Limiting the number of posts we can see per day as a normal user?
Buy upvotes?
The slippery slope logical fallacy doesn’t count when there is actual factual evidence.
Buy upvotes?
The sad part is, I can absolutely see this happening. Not as an outright “gib money get updoot” but something more roudabout but effectively the same thing.
“Be heard louder with Reddit Premium! Your comments on posts will be displayed closer to the top for others to see!”
To reiterate, the above is just something I mocked up. May not be upvotes, but still rigging threads by paying Reddit money. I just wouldn’t be surprised at this point.
It’s sort of what World of Warcraft did with gold.
The gold farms were making TONS of money selling illegal gold in much the same way upvote farms are making a killing.
Upvotes are free for them to give, and they would have a money printer on their hands.
A new tier: reddit ultimate
With reddit ultimate you get all the benefits of reddit premium plus you get the ability to link your online and offline personas as well as a weekly free loot box.
Loot boxes (8USD each or 10 for 50USD) may contain one of the following perks:
- a week of free Reddit ultimate.
- “3 nuclear downvotes”, like a normal downvote but counts as 50.
- “karma MSG”, for 12 hours all karma you get or lose is counted twice.
- “look into the shadows”, get a complete list of all your shadow bans.
- “STFU”, mute all chats for a week.
- “sacrificial lamb”, remove any or all non-ultimate users from your followers.
- “heeeere’s Johnny!”, banned from a sub? Guess again, and this time you can’t get banned by non-ultimate mods for a week.
- 5 gold awards, appears in 17 out of 24 loot boxes
A as a new democracy oriented initiative, for 50USD you get to dethrone one mod for a month.
The loot boxes would actually be able to get me back, not to buy them of course, but to see the havoc it would bring to r/Conservative.
Include me in the screenshot when this happens!
Anyone can easily buy upvotes.
The slippery slope is only a fallacy when you’re making leaps. To go from enacting exorbitant API fees to removal of old Reddit is a logical step so doesn’t make for a fallacy. Intent also plays a part for the same reason. If you can prove that enacting exorbitant API fees was for the purpose of restricting user access then limiting number of posts for users not logged in is a logical step. Slippery slope gets a bad rap but it can be a valid point and not a fallacy when done properly.
People get “slippery slope” wrong. Not every sequence of events is a slope.
The idea of slippery slope is that one small action is said to kick off an unstoppable chain reaction. It doesn’t just mean that A leads to B. It means that A inevitably leads to B, even if it didn’t intend to, and B happening can’t be stopped once A happens. And maybe even the people that wanted A don’t want B but can’t stop it, because we’ve slipped and we’re sliding uncontrollably down the slope. That’s the whole concept, that we’re stuck sliding.
Reddit doing one restrictive action, and then later choosing to do another restrictive action, probably doesn’t apply. There’s seemingly no slope, just an easily foreseeable sequence of events.
When the slope is engineered and intentionally constructed per design it likely isn’t slippery. This Reddit slide is decline, which is a type of slope in some context, but it isn’t slippery.
What’s next in the Reddit bingo?
See what stupid shit Musk pulled with Twitter a month ago, and that’ll be what Reddit does in a few days.
Reddit will go away for non logged in users.
Well have a look at this and reflect on what beautiful behaviours it will bring forward:
That whole crypto thing is scary as hell.
Unless you hold your secret keys then you don’t really own your money.
Crypto is #4 in trending topics.
Reddit is Twitter now.
lmao I can’t believe the doomers were right and reddit tied itself to crypto bullshit. Absolutely unreal.
Old reddit and New reddit will probably cease to exist when sh.reddit is ready.
What’s the difference between new.reddit and sh.reddit? They look nearly identical, but with different margins and padding.
I don’t really know because I haven’t spent much time with it. I do remember either in one of the mod summits or somewhere that Spez admitted that new reddit was bad and that they were already working on the next version of reddit, which is what sh.reddit is supposed to be. New reddit is an abomination and I’ve only ever used it for settings old reddit does not have.
But to be honest with you, I haven’t really spent any time on sh.reddit because you used to not be able to log in to it.
The removal of old reddit?
Yep, they will absolutely do that. Only a matter of time.
How has it survived! Definitely getting the axe!
I’m 100% out once that happens. Well technically I pretty much am currently. I may look at r/all for a couple minutes then head over here for a good portion of time.
The comments on Reddit have declined since the purge, it’s unbelievably shitty now.
Everything you listed is on the table for them. I hope they do it so it dies quickly.
Honestly, I’m surprised Old Reddit has lasted this long at all, even before all this.
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if they removed the ability to comment.
