Pretty worried about the comments man. Murdering (or trying to) a candidate of any political party is terrible.
People often talk about going back in time to kill baby Hitler. By all measures Trump would like to be a new Hitler and his most fervent supporters see him as that. Is it surprising people would support such an action to stop him?
If you unironically think trump would be a new Hitler, I’m either completely underestimating his threat or you’re batshit fucking insane.
what’s your opinion on project 2025 and its contents?
Dunno much about it, I’m not american, but at what I could find with a quick online search, it looks pretty awful. Looks nowhere near the control you’d need for a dictatorship.
None of his supporters, unless you’re talking about a very extreme fringe, look at him as Hitler.
Yeh cause if they did they wouldn’t be voting for him. That’s how this works.
I thought that trump supporters were Nazis and liked that trump was like Hitler, so what do you mean?
I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic but I talked to a friend last night who lives in Mississippi and he said that he talks to people who think that Trump is legit a good Christiana and a good person.
Not only is it terrible, it’s an actual threat to democracy.
I don’t know how anyone is surprised though. When you use words like “Nazi” and “existential threat” and “threat to our democracy” it can’t be a shock when someone tries to become a historic hero for taking out the supposed next Hitler, and people who buy into that propaganda language are going to cheer them on and want more of it. They’re frothing at the mouth, imagining they’re on the right side of history.
I get what the Dems are trying to do with pushing that language, but it really is playing with fire. It was a 50/50 chance that they could get him ineligible to run, alive or dead, and they’ve lost each bet.
I see republican voters shooting republican candidates as pretty much reasonable outcome rather than some newly emergent threat to democracy. Trump made his image himself, it was him who decided to harass miniorities and brag about reading Mein Kampf often. It was him who made republican message extreme, provoked an insurrection, had all those criminal charges and appointed obviously corrupt judges. He groomed americans into feeling insecure and threatened and radicalized a lot of them. I think random depressed kids trying to suicide by shooting him is the least he should expect, especially seeing that USA has a gun cult focused around right to bear arms against threats to democracy. Also a child rapist, which alone is enough for millions of people to pull the trigger. You’re seriously blaming his bad image on anyone else?
Trump made his image himself, it was him who decided to harass miniorities and brag about reading Mein Kampf often.
The absolute garbage that does be on the internet, honestly.
Right, sorry, it was his wife that outed him for having Hitler speeches book “My New Order” back in 1990, which he apparently kept in a cabinet next to his bed. In the interview he also admitted having a copy of Mein Kampf, though he never openly claimed to read that book often. When he quoted Hitler in 2023 he said it was just a coincidence. Which caused no one to feel uneasy, no one at all. His former chief of staff claimed that Trump praised Hitler for doing some good things, like rebuilding the economy.
So right, sorry, I mixed the “Mein Kampf” for “My New Order”, and it was his wife that outed that, he only confirmed.
He himself said he would be a dictator on day one.
Yeah, as a joke. Context matters. Like how I don’t think Biden meant he wanted some to shoot trump when he said “put a bullseye on him”.
Here’s your broader context, all direct quotes:
“We’re going to build a wall, and Mexico is going to pay for it”
“When the looting starts, the shooting starts”
“I will totally obliterate the deep state”
IT’S JUST A JOKE BRO, IT’S JUST A PRANK
This feels like some strained both-sidesing here.
Calling the traitorous self-serving felon that caused an actual attack on the government and the Democratic process “a threat to democracy” seems tame, honestly. And that’s not even getting into his promises to jail political opponents, be a dictator on day one, suspend the constitution, call the free press an enemy of the people, and claim absolute authority and absolute immunity.
But then that whole political group also seems convinced that a barely progressive status quo “let’s work together” administration is literally totalitarian tyranny.
On top of that, if trump would have been killed, there is technically nothing stopping the US from postponing elections, coming up with an intermediate solution to have a functioning government without a D. president (like, no appointing of judges and such) and then have an election next year when the Republicans had enough time to find a new candidate.
If trump pushes through the things he said he’d do and what his supporters are supporting like project 2025, there’s a real chance that there are no actually democratic elections in 2028. And this is ignoring the fact that gerrymandering and the electoral college are already questionable and regularly abused by or benefit Republicans the most.
OceanSoap being loaded into the train car: “Ok guys, any minute now will be the prime opportunity to stop these fascist guys. Just remember to consider both sides, they might have a really good reason for taking us out to this isolated camp.”
Picking good arguments from both candidates isn’t allowing one to walk all over you,.
See they’re having us fill the whole back up again. This isn’t a mass grave. They’re just putting us to work! See creating jobs why complain?
His victory as president of the US is a threat to democracy. He already attempted a coup in 2021
I mean, he attempted a coup in the same way Biden sent that kid to shoot Trump a few days ago.
You know what’s more of a threat to democracy? Trying to imprison a political opponent.
Do you have a source for Biden paying off that kid?
Also, Trump should serve time for the financial crimes he committed outside of being president. Him being in prison wouldn’t be that much of an issue for a lot of his fans
Do you have a source for Trump paying off the j6 protesters?
The issue over his crimes are whether they’re actually federal crimes or not.
I never said anything about him paying off people who took part in the failed coup
I didn’t say anything about a payment either.
Were you asleep the first time he was in office? Read Project 2025. That’s what they plan on doing if he gets elected.
I wasn’t. The economy was far better and we didn’t start any new wars.
I did read project 2025, but Trump has already said that’s not his aim or connect to him. He does have an agenda, but it’s not that one
What happened? Did we discover another exo-planet?
Nearly.
No signs of intelligent life?
Some guy tried to shoot Trump. Tried. However, bystander died and FBI killed the shooter.
FBI or secret service?
FBI
Secret service proved itself once again to be the most useless.
“What the fuck do you fucks even do?”
“It’s a secret”
No mixed feelings here, just heaps of disappointment.
If your feelings weren’t mixed you either don’t value human life or you don’t value democracy.
Edit: a bystander was killed and so was the 20 year old gunman. This is the human life I’m referring to.
I don’t even know the news how can I feel mixed
Assassination attempt on Trump in a rally.
I see. Thanks
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Sorry but most politicians don’t care about democracy either, just enriching themselves and close friends
is Democracy really just a choice between an evil and a good? the USA needs way more politcal parties than just two.
What? The current events are an attempt on someone’s life with the goal of saving what semblance of democracy we have left.
Did y’all seriously miss the memo? It’s pretty obvious what he meant if you haven’t been under a rock for the last 24hrs.
It’s pretty wishful thinking to think Proj 2025 and all the other MAGAs are going to fade away after the orange man is gone. Did you not see De Santis’ support before Trump entered the race?
There’s a lot of bullets in the country, Republicans made dire of that. Shame if it backfired on them.
The USA needs ranked choice voting
Paradox of tolerance: Trump will end democracy and even more lives.
No, the person most likely to end democracy will advocate rolling back freedoms to ‘preserve’ it, or to punish the wicked people that are considered their political enemies. The most likely person won’t be a Democrat, but will almost certainly be a leftist that starts their own populist political party
Fascism has always been a right wing ideology. While leftists have made some terrible mistakes, you shouldn’t pretend they are the only or main threat to democracy.
Leftists don’t believe America can be saved, they wouldn’t “roll back freedoms,” whatever the heck that means, they would dismantle the state and build up a new one.
There is no way to know if he wouldnt have just turned into martyr and help elect someone even worse
Edit: a
bystanderTrump supporter was killedFTFY. They were attending a Trump rally. They weren’t just a bystander. They were complicit.
You are truly the epitome of an evil person. God help us if someone like you ever gains any real political power
Trump has frequently called for the violent death of his enemies. Everyone at that rally supported this position.
I don’t feel bad at all for the thing they want to happen to others happening to them.
So, for all your haunted ideals, at the end of the day, you are no better than him. You are a narcissistic person that gets a perverse pleasure from the suffering of your perceived political enemies
Would you kill Hitler, or throw aside your gun for the sake of “civility?”
Would killing Hitler make you “no better than Hitler?”
No, it means the next guy to commit atrocities will have a different last name. Your cartoonish views on morality is tiring
Gotcha, you would in fact let Hitler be.
I’ve been called worse by better people.
You don’t have to convince me. I believe you
I don’t have to have feelings about something to value it.
We aren’t running out of humans, and we don’t live in a democracy…
Turns out you don’t have to be running out of humans to value human life.
If I have a bowl of rice, and one of the grains is actively trying to end my way of life, I don’t mind when someone shoots at it with an assault rifle.
First of all: rice doesn’t have that kind of agency
Second of all: shooting at a grain of rice in your bowl with an assault rifle is many times more likely to hit you than that specific grain of rice
Third, if that’s REALLY the best analogy you could think of, you should just stop the whole “communicating your thoughts to other people” thing. Evidently it’s not something you’re ever going to get the hang of.
Fourth and finally: a propos of nothing except the fact that I just listened to an episode of My Brother, My Brother, and Me, horses are overrated, and not just by the McElroy brothers.
Define ‘Human’
Yeah, I guess the convicted felon is destined to expire on his golden throne while trying to push out a Big Mac.
Wouldn’t it have been hilarious if that’s what happened after the fact?
I have thoughts and prayers for the bullet that couldn’t do it’s job
I’d say I have no mixed feelings…
Today was a bad day
No mixed feelings.
I wish there was more wind.
I like wind.
Don’t you mean less wind?
Depends on direction
not sure if information is reliable but someone who knew him talked about he is a bad shot, so more wind for the assist would help
That seems believable. lol
Absolutely not. My feeling of disappointment was completely unequivocal.
Oh no, I wasn’t having mixed feelings, I was disappointed that someone took a shot at the king and missed.
I’ll say it out loud: On the one hand, dying of cancer sucks. On the other, Shannon Doherty was really mean to her coworkers.
Just realized she passed away yesterday, I only heard about Gene Simmons.
Edit: RICHARD Simmons. Gene is the guy from KISS.
That was a wild fitness class…
Pessimistically, I don’t see how the system gets better without full collapse.
But wow imagine a few normal candidates running again. Imagine getting to vote for politics and not in a rule-breaking popularity contest.
That’s a bit drama-queenish.
We had a good thing before Trump ran for president and won.
Once he’s gone things will go back to normal over time.
Trump is just the logical conclusion of the christo fascist takeover of the Republicans. It will be there when he’s gone
I understand your position but I think you’re wrong. Fascists always, without exception, need a “charismatic” leader like the Nazis with Hitler or the Russians with Putin. There’s currently only Trump who can fill that role. It’s of course possible that another such person appears out of nowhere, but I don’t see anyone on their side. Trump was a TV star and tacky racist celeb (birthed) since the 80s. His brand isn’t new, he build it over a long time. Who do you think would fill his shoes if yesterday’s attempt had succeeded? There’s no one.
This is Great Man Theory. Trump would not be popular if his policies and stances weren’t popular, and there are plenty of replacements.
Yet who is a better fit for that theory than Trump, from the perspective of his fans, at least?
That’s not what Great Man Theory is. Trump is an excellent example of why Great Man Theory is wrong. Great Man Theory just states that history is guided by influential figures, which is wrong. The Material Conditions of society determine what ideas dominate, and thus people appearing to be influential become popular.
Oh someone took a semester of social sciences! Way to go, son!
Raegan was a similar character previously. I don’t doubt they will arise again. Certainly, there are many Republicans with the same reactionary politics.
