Amazon Prime Days ran on July 16th and 17th (at least here, in Canada).

This price jump happened a day before and ended two days later, but this item was “on sale” during those two Prime Days.

I’ve been seeing this scam far too often, especially with food items. Why isn’t this illegal yet?

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        Yeah… But everybody got to FAFO to learn their lesson it seems.

        Ie this tacric has a steady supply of people every year

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      We have a local gas station that’ll do this sort of shit too. Like, on the 20th or 21st of every month, they’ll give a 30 cent discount on gasoline, but somehow most people don’t even notice that they conveniently raised the price by 30 cents the day before…

      So the universe remains stable, and the people are getting fucked, as usual. ☹️

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        Some people want it. I worked in retail at a place that advertised “every day low prices.” This meant that if an item was marked as such, it was never going to go on sale. Very often it was the cheapest you could find the item anywhere.

        I had people put the item in their cart, ask me if it was on sale, I told them the above, and they put it back. Nearly every time.

        Hell JC Penny almost went bankrupt when they stopped deceptive pricing.

        People are stupid.

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          Lul I was talking about jcpenny with my fiancee a couple weeks back. It’s sorta sad and hilarious to see people just willing to spend extra overall because of these tactics.

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    Why isn’t this illegal yet?

    It is illegal in some countries such as Australia but the fines for doing this is nothing compared to the money gained for doing it.

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      Also illegal in the EU, when posting a “sale” the price compared to must be the lowest price the outlet had for the product in the previous 30 days. So unless they want to increase the price for over 30 days, this trick isn’t going to fly.

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        Amazon isn’t an outlet though, is that the wording in the law? Because that implies it’s for brick and mortar only.

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          In the exact wording they speak of a “Trader”. It’s for both webshops and brick and mortar. And I think it applies to the entity and not the specific shop. So if a company has more than one shop, the lowest price on any of those shops would apply.

          Now this is new law and hasn’t been fully tested, I’m sure shops will try things to evade this new regulation, but in the past the EU has not taken kindly to shit like that.

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            Interesting.

            In Canada for Black Friday and boxing day they just have new SKUs (models made specifically for sale that day), but these are also usually cheaper than the normal ones. I think they’re actually made from the bottom tier of acceptable parts. So the quality is marginally lower on these models.

            I could be wrong on the latter part.

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              Some companies will make special versions for Black Friday that do indeed have cheaper parts or missing features, but for many it’s the exact same product as the normal SKU. They do the special SKU at the request of the retailer, to guarantee that no one can use a “price match guarantee” to make them sell more than the planned quantity of door busters.

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        For this context with Amazon though, prime is totally different in the EU than the US.

        There are few countries with Amazon (eg Germany) and thus for most the benefit is that prime only gets free shipping on smaller orders that wouldn’t qualify normally, and faster processing in the warehouse. Maybe you get your shit a day or two earlier.

        In the US it’s next day vs a week.

        Point being there are far fewer prime accounts in EU so Amazon likely doesn’t care if they can’t discount as “deeply” as in the US.

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        Many places are totally fine with only putting an item on “sale” less than every month. If you keep 1/4 of you items on sale, you’re covered, even if you only keep something on sale for a single week.

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        Illegal in California under the false advertising law unless something was the prevailing market price for 3 months prior.

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        They get around it by having a sale on a special version of the product that had a higher price in the past 30 to 90 days. The version is the same as normal, but with a different serial number.

        Only that version goes on “sale” for Black Friday or whatever, so they are technically following the law. They do it in the US too. Literally look it up on Camel Camel Camel during a sale.

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      It’s the same story in US and Canada. Illegal, but not really enforced. And when it is enforced the the penalties aren’t strong enough to be a deterrent.

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    Put a few items on your wishlist, and watch the fluctuations, even without prime days.

    Overall, you save a buck or two on prime days, that’s all.

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    Some brands do this continually. That’s how Eddie Bauer or The Gap is constantly having a 30% off sale on one thing or another.

    And it works. It’s called “price anchoring.”

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      I think many companies will put sales on overpriced items to make it seem like a deal, but it’s hard to catch the ones who inflate the prices just before a sale happens (which brings the sale price down to the regular price). The latter is a bigger problem, IMO.

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    Fuck Amazon. I never use them and my life hasn’t materially changed one iota since I stopped like 5 years ago.

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      In the last 5 years, Amazon (for me) has had lower food prices than nearly all local grocery stores for certain items. The "trick’ is to park those items in a wishlist and set a notification for when the price drops to a level you are willing to pay (via browser add-on), then you can really save a lot.

      But for most items, it’s a gamble to assume you are getting the lowest price, even when they are on sale. But then again, I think most stores play the same games, so consumers are always on the losing end no matter where they shop.

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    Lol yep. Literally Amazon 101, there’s a very good reason you shouldn’t buy from them unless you HAVE to.

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      I do score some very good deals on Amazon, but I also use a browser plug-in that lets me get a notification once my desired price has been reached. I always look at the historical charts, though. Some items are constantly going up and down in price. At least we have that option with Amazon, and not so much with our local grocery stores :(

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        I bought something at lowest price ever on prime day according to camel camel, but now it’s way up with a coupon to bring it down to the same amount. So may not be getting a good deal as much as you think.

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      I think most stores do this. But with Amazon, you can at least use a browser plugin to actually know when you’re getting a good deal.

      That said, if I could avoid Amazon, I likely would.

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    I had a DVD box set in my wishlist for a while. It was “50%” off during the sale, but I think the price actually went up by about $10. I did still snag a bunch of movies for under $20 each, which at least feels like a good price.

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    80% of the items I considered had either jacked up the price prior to prime days, or advertised a large discount when the actual discount was tiny - a few percent. I ended up buying nothing. Amazon sucks.

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    it’s feature of retail/capitalism. You just have better tools like Keepa to showcase this scam, now.

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      Keepa

      This one browser extension has likely saved me thousands over the years. Since most of my purchases can wait, I’m often scoring the true lowest price for an item when I do have to buy something.

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    One of the many reasons I dropped Prime in January when my annual subscription ran out. I now avoid amazon where possible, or for certain things I’ll group them up until I have enough items to get free shipping and order that way.

    No prime day garbage No more “oh, let me order this thing I don’t really need that will get here in a few hours”

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    Years ago, I wanted to buy a new TV, in the middle of October. My wife said that we should wait to black Friday but I told her that black Friday was a scam so I bought it right there. I keep following the price of the TV and how is slowly but surely rise price every other day, until black Friday when it got a 40% discount and was still more than I paid a month before.

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    I noticed a vevor mixer that usually goes for a bit under $500 was on “sale” but the price hasn’t changed, and the regular price went up to $650. Now that prime is over, it’s sale price increased to $550.

    Pretty lame.

    Having said that, though, I did find some things I wanted for cheaper than usual, that I needed.

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    It’s illegal in Norway. Items must not have been at the discounted rate at least 30 days prior

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      Same for the whole of the European union.

      This post must be a Freedom©®™ thing we’re too unfree to understand

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      Don’t Norwegians miss out on having the freedom to get conned? And sure, this sounds good for the citizens, but what about the magic line we all worship? I think it might harm the line.