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    5 months ago

    Pork has no fucking business being that damn tasty.

    Its like its begging to be cooked.

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    I mainly kill animals to enjoy the silence that comes after.

    Damn mosquitoes sound annoying AF!

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        the least you could do is stfu and be grateful but no you have to fucking play vuvuzela LITERALLY IN MY EAR

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      Also they’re so damn noisy. You’d think their parents could shut them up, but human babies just like to scream.

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    PETA be like:

    ❎All those listed

    ✅Killing animals taken to your shelter

    ✅Having sex with the animal (claiming animals can’t consent is speciesist)

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    Hey all you modern-day meat eaters out there, raise your hand if you’ve ever actually killed an animal.

    No one?

    That’s what I thought.

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      How many beans have you harvested? How many bushels of wheat have you grown? None, damn I guess that means we all have to starve to death.

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      Fuck yeah brother, every invasive carp I can remove from my local river and stream ecosystem is a big WIN for everybody around me.

      I cut their throats and leave them in the reeds for scavengers to feed on.

      I do this with a big fuckin’ smile too, knowing my local DNR fines ignorant folks who release invasive species into my waterways.

      Edit: am strictly catch-and-release when not reeling in invasive cunts. I don’t even used barbed hooks because I’m not a dick bag.

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        Such a strange combination of sport and killing. Which part do you like best?

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      🙋‍♂️

      Down here it’s a pretty common hobby. I just got a new .308 last year for this explicit purpose.

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      I have butchered squirrels, deer, turkey, snakes, catfish, goats, pigs, and rabbits. Went vegetarian two years ago for ethical reasons though, so I guess I don’t get to raise my hand lol

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      I’ve killed deer, chickens, chipmunks, squirrel, and some other small pests. Yes, I did gut and clean the deer and chickens myself. And yes, I did eat their tasty fleshy meat.

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      The replies to this are chefs kiss

      Everyone talks about the annoying vegan, but look at all of the rage-induced replies from the meat eaters.

      I counted maybe a dozen strawmen? People really are resistant to any kind of change, even the thought of it.

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      I have been fishing before with friends and watched a meat animal get decapitated on a relatives farm out of curiosity

      Also watched a mongoose get drowned as part of pest control on the same relatives farm because they eat chickens

      Never felt bad about it and enjoyed learning about It

      Oh and I’ve massacred countless amounts of mosquitos but I don’t eat them

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      Do you use a phone? Well, you cant use one unless you build it yourself…

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      It’s an interesting choice to accuse people in general of never having gone fishing before.

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        If you thought they were saying noone has ever killed their own meat, you are missing the point.

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          They should formulate their point better so you don’t look silly when you leap to their defense.

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            If you think I look silly, sure. All I’m saying is all of the meat advocates that jumped to attack the OP are missing the point.

            Now, why would you all misconstrue what they said so bad? Are you all seriously arguing that even close to a substantial percent of people hunt for their own food?

            Maybe, just MAYBE, they weren’t talking about all of you who actually have, and instead were making a point about how the vast majority of people in at least the US have not and will not hunt their own food in their lifetime. The number drops if we only consider those who actually provide for themselves with hunting rather than treat it as a sport with meat as a bonus.

            No you are right, they must have literally meant that noone has ever hunted ever. That makes much more sense. Definitely doesnt say anything about your reading comprehension.

            I get it, they are coming for your meat, probably your guns too. Life’s rough. Keep up the good fight.

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      🙋‍♂️

      Parents owned a hog and chicken farm. Pro tip: never eat a rooster. Awful meat.

      I also used to go fishing and hunting with my parents all the time. I love me a good catfish.

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        I have eaten rooster before, its more a gamey like taste or more intense compared to chicken

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          Maybe the one I had was just bad or something. I didn’t enjoy it.

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      🙋 I’ve hunted deer, gutted and skinned them myself too. The tenderloins are great sauteed, and the rest of the meat is good ground (just don’t cook it as long as hamburger, it’s more lean).

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        If you haven’t realized yet, vegans dont care about hunters.

        Factory farms are hard to make an argument for though.

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          I’ll give it a shot anyways, to play devil’s advocate.

          I only buy a vanishingly small percentage of the amount of meat produced by factory farms every year. So I feel the same percentage responsible for perpetuating that system, which isn’t nearly enough to keep me up at night.

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            Hey we can all just work to be better versions of ourselves, and theres a lot of ways to make progress. Considering I’m the only vegan in my family, I likely buy more meat than you do.

            Its really just important to me that people dont allow themselves to stop growing mentally and morally. Its sad when people behave like they have all the answers to everything already.

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      🙋

      I went crabbing and the resources I found said that killing them before cooking them was likely more humane than boiling them alive, so that’s what I did.

      My old neighbor’s cat once left a paralyzed/twitching rat outside my door, which I found in the morning. I quickly realized that the rat was not going to recover (it had already been there for hours), so I had to figure out a way to quickly end its suffering. I did not eat the rat though.

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      Even if you added “for it’s meat” at the end there, I have killed and eaten fish.

      But the way you said it, who hasn’t swatted a fly or mosquito? Not to mention the skin mites and fruit flies you consume daily.

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      Took a chance on the lemmy demographic and lost. There’s actually a pretty diverse group here I’m finding.

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    *please talk to a dietitian or your doctor, if possible, before drastically changing your diet

    I’ve already had to drop dairy out of my diet, so I figure that going vegan isn’t necessarily that much of a stretch anymore. It’s not because of moral or ethical reasons, though: it’s entirely because handling raw meat squicks me out. I currently have to keep up the charade because my family are kind of dicks about it…it sucks.

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      handling raw meat squicks me out.

      Me too, keeping a box of disposable food service gloves in the kitchen fixed this cheaply. It may not help you the same but it made food prep bearable for me.

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      … I figure that going vegan isn’t necessarily that much of a stretch anymore. It’s not because of moral or ethical reasons

      Then it’s not veganism. Veganism is not a diet. It is an ethical position on the treatment of animals. All aspects of our treatment of animals. You cannot be almost vegan or sometimes vegan or partially vegan any more than you can be almost a feminist. Someone who believes women should be allowed to own property, but not his wife, is not almost a feminist.

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      There’s a lot of vegan propaganda everywhere, and a lot of it has been paid for by the Davos foundation.

      All in prep for reserving meat for the financial elite and shuffling off the rest of us to more ‘sustainable’ food sources like bugs and recycled trash.

      Gee I wonder if the wealthy elite have finally realized the long term fallout of their endless greed destroying the planet.

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      The point is people kill animals because they have to not because they want to

      And you think that’s pro-vegan?

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      I mean I’m not a vegan but I can’t help but feel like this meme’s got a point

      The fact people are getting butthurt in the comments proves they know it’s true

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        Shrug. It’s just not particularly funny. And there’s pretty obviously a widespread effort to post vegan stuff to non-vegan subs. People have made their choices and trying to hammer them over it doesn’t change anyone’s mind. I’m just blocking the people doing it, personally.

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        I mean I don’t see the correlation between different experiences with different senses.

        Like I love feeling shit come out of my ass, don’t like hearing seeing smelling or tasting it and I don’t think that’s an intellectual ‘gotcha’

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        I disagree. None of those other actions serve a purpose. It’s not like we can absorb calories through touch, smell or our eyes. No bosy just licks meat and then throws it away like they would if they just touched, smelled, or saw it. We actually eat the meat when we taste it. That’s why people enjoy the taste, because they associate it with being fed. Not because of some cognitive dissonance as the meme suggests.

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        Philosophical phantasm, they know but accepting it’s true in a real sense would cause them to have an identity crisis.

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        Yeah, I mean, they’re not wrong.

        I’m pescatarian and I’m happy with that choice, others should be allowed to make their own choice, but they should also make an informed choice.

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      I know it’s a fun joke but human meat, especially modern humans, is pretty nasty tasting. It’s why sharks usually only take one bite.

      Maneaters like tigers and lions still find us disgusting but they are lazy and can easily get in the habit of preferring the easier prey.

      Oily and bitter mostly, its all the processed fats in our diets.

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    I grew up on a farm, I’ve killed and slaughtered my own food my whole life and I always felt good about eating meat because of that fact.

    As I get older I’m really starting to hate killing things, I don’t want to end a life at all. My couple of vegetarian days might turn into a whole lifestyle.

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      You’ve got this! There are a ton of benefits to going plant-based. Dominion is a great documentary to show how most (~90%) are treated, which emphasizes the importance for us to shift away (it doesn’t sound like the way you did it was as bad as this, but this is the info that made me swap away recently).

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    We need to eat. We don’t need tol take joy in aninal deaths. These are different things and the meme is dumb.

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      Imagine I have two choices: end world hunger, or end world hunger and kick a puppy. If I choose to end world hunger but also kick a puppy…well I’m kinda a dick, right? Ultimately I did a very good thing ending word hunger, so on balance, my actions are “net positive.” But the choice I actually made was to kick a puppy.

      Now, I need to eat. So I have a choice: eat yummy food and don’t kill an animal, or eat yummier food and do kill and animal. The choice I’m effectively faced with is, “kill an animal for better taste.”

      It’s totally up to you to decide if that is a good choice for you personally.

      If course it’s not always so simple, and there are financial, cultural, and health reasons that complicate this. But for some folks (like myself) that’s kinda how I view it.

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        Oh I fully agree that not eating meat is the better alternative. I just thing the meme was stupid. There’s plenty of valid reasons to promote eating less meat without making up strawmen

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      Except you don’t need to eat animals and so it is the same. You’re killing animals for your entertainment, just because you eat them after that doesn’t change anything.

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        People have eaten meat for thousands of years. That’s been a matter of survival, not entertainment. But my comment was about people taking joy in killing, which is what the meme is about, not taking joy in eating,. I appreciate your zeal but I’d prefer you to not ascribe to me arguments I didn’t make

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        You’re killing animals for your entertainment, just because you eat them after that doesn’t change anything.

        sure thing edgelord.

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            I don’t think

            coulda stopped there.

            Furthermore, I don’t care what you think. You come up with silly bullshit like ‘you’re killing animals for entertainment’ as if they’re not consumed for food. Dislike meat eating all you want, but use your fucking brain - if it’s being killed for consumption (it’s an industry, so like, that part is important, capitalism gotta cha-ching or it’s not doing it’s insidious thing) and the factories aren’t putting out a live stream, in fact, they go to great lengths to make sure NO ONE from the outside see how the sausage is made. So it’s not entertainment.

            With thoughts like these, it would be counterproductive to waste any time caring what you think about, that would be a waste of calories.

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              The “entertainment” here I believe refers to the pleasurable experience of eating the animal as food. Since it’s not out of necessity

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                I don’t eat for entertainment, I don’t have that kind of budget.

                and I don’t think the people eating pork are doing it from a “GEE THIS SURE IS LUXURIOUS INPUT” - I think it’s mostly cheap protein with many downsides.

                yes I still eat bacon when I can get it. no I don’t consider it ‘entertainment’ .

                what a silly discussion.

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                  Beans and lentils are cheaper protein, you buy meat because you prefer the taste. That’s a type of entertainment.

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        you don’t know what they need. and I seriously doubt they are killing for entertainment. I doubt they kill anything at all.

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          Paying someone to kill someone/something for you is still killing.

          “but what if they have a medical condition that doesn’t exist that I just made up”

          Pretty unlikely.

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            And paying someone to kill someone/something for you is still killing.

            most people don’t do that, either

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              how do you think meat gets to the grocery store? someone has to kill an animal, and the person buying the meat typically pays money for it.

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                the person doing the killing is usually paid by someone but most people are neither killing nor paying the killers. they are both paid long before someone walks into a grocery store.

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                  they are paid because people buy the products. if nobody bought the products, there would be no money in it. are you trying to say that people would be paid to kill animals even if nobody bought animal products?