I prefer “list” view over grid view. Switching to grid view shows six videos before the break, but significantly less information about the video.
I highly suggest using Enhancer for YouTube, it allows you to hide shorts and also convert them to normal video player so you can seek them like any other YouTube video.
There’s also multitude of different customisation options, you can hide related videos, change default comment order, disable comments altogether, expand the description ;)
https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/enhancer-for-youtube/ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/enhancer-for-youtube/ponfpcnoihfmfllpaingbgckeeldkhle https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/enhancer-for-youtube™/dlgfaleeejmphhnemjgiaekdbonkagkd
You just put me on sir. I have been using piped instead because of all the clutter yt was putting in.
I wish this worked on the mobile browser
There’s always ReVanced, at least on Android ;)
https://github.com/revanced/revanced-manager/releases/latest
damn you cant even hide them like you can on mobile that sucks.
I do not see a way to hide them on mobile.
There was one of the buttons up in the corner like there is for videos where you can tell it not interested. Like 3 days ago I was very annoyed because they threw them up at the very top of my YouTube apps home page and idk how it is on a regular phone, but on the fold 3 the shorts section takes up like 3/4 of the screen. If you’re looking for one in the subscription page, I don’t actually use that page tbh but I just checked and yeah there’s not one there.
You can hide segments like that with ublock, fwiw. It’s been really useful to me for these kinds of changes every single website seems to be pushing these days.
I found youtube in particular to use very generic functionq that are used in other places so blocking something small ends up blocking other things, iirc from the long time ago that I wasn’t using piped, blocking youtube premium prompt broke comments or something along those lines
Sure, it depends on the coding of the site. Personally, I make sure to block the entire container where possible, and I haven’t run into too many issues like that.
only had the problem on youtube, I remember trying a lot of different elements to see how I could get around it
You can also hide these segments by just clicking the X in the top right corner. It’ll hide the shelf (I think that’s how YouTube calls them) for 30 days.
Also DeArrow extension is really good for removing the clickbait thumbnails and replaces them with a simple still from the video itself. It also removes Emojis and special characters from the titles.
Other essential extensions for YouTube for me are (1) sponsorblock and (2) enhancer for YouTube.
DeArrowing is the thing I didn’t know I needed. Thanks!
I dont know where I have it from (I think somone on reddit posted it), but I use this in the uBlock Origin Filter since 8 month and it removes all my shorts from the subscription:
www.youtube.com##ytd-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-guide-entry-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-mini-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse #dismissible ytd-rich-grid-slim-media[is-short]:upward(ytd-rich-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-item-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-grid-video-renderer,ytd-rich-item-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-search .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-compact-video-renderer,ytd-shelf-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer ytd-reel-shelf-renderer www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-video-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="channels"] #contents.ytd-reel-shelf-renderer:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="trending"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-search #contents ytd-reel-shelf-renderer m.youtube.com##ytm-reel-shelf-renderer m.youtube.com##ytm-pivot-bar-renderer div.pivot-shorts:upward(ytm-pivot-bar-item-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-search ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-single-column-watch-next-results-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer span:has-text(/^(0:\d\d|1:0\d)$/):upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer)It will sure break in a couple of month again. It did 8 Month ago and I am sure YT will change the code again at some point.
I do not trust having to many FF Extensions installed from some rando from the Internet, so I like this solution better.
I don’t mind shorts so much but Enhancer for Youtube has the ability to convert shorts to regular videos or hide them.
But the Videos are still only 1 Minute long. I find them a disgrace for my attention span. Before shorts/tiktok people were already arguing how deep a video of 10 Minute really can be and might be giving only a shallow idea of a topic. Going even further down to 1 Minute per topic is too much (less) for me. I prefer videos 20 Minutes+. Mostly 45-60 Minutes hit a decent spot for me to feel like I learned something about a topic. A couple of days ago I watched a 2-parts video of 6h and 5h (over several days) about the Russo-Japanese war. And even that was skimming over a lot of topics (obviously) but afterwards I felt like I understood something. I dont know how a 1 Minute short can transport anything other than just “a feeling of knowledge” - at this point it is basically just entertainment. I already felt 10 Minutes was snack-infotainment short. 1 Minute clips leave me behind like eating candy for dinner: Very unsatisfied. And maybe that is the reason people then click the next tiktok/short, because they actually do not feel satisfied by such a short clip and have the feeling for wanting more. And they satisfy this “more” by switching to another 1-Minute video. Again getting the feeling of more, yet getting less in the end of the day.
Can you share the videos about the war? They sound interesting.
True but also to be fair I have attention issues and can’t really sit too long for a whole video but they’re good for a lot of little critical role clips!
Then again I’m on like Tiktok all the time so I’m used to it :3
I think (if it is not a disorder) attention span can be trained. It takes discipline and a true interest into a topic other than just a vague excitement. If you are able to state what topics you are interested in for yourself, you might be able to concentrate on 10-30 Minutes of the same topic. People who are really into The Kardashians are able to watch a whole 50 Minute episode of them. So it is not the problem of concentration for them, it is more that they need something put in front of them for that they can feel a passion or enthusiasm they deeply care about - even it is just The Kardashians. Here is the thing: People have no problem browsing 2h+ of tiktok, but can not concentrate on 10x 20min video? I think if you have a real interest in something you can get through longer videos. Do you look for thing you really care about or do you actively looking for a distraction when you browse tiktok? It is not a bad thing to use it that way. After a long day of work, it can relax your brain browsing real shallow, short clips. But daily, in high doses… then I think it is maybe another reason people do it (escapism, etc.)
I dont know where I have it from
Maybe from here: https://letsblock.it/filters/youtube-shorts
I really think i got it from a Reddit comment, but it is good to know the source of it. Thank you.
path[d^=“M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33”]
Some of those rules are OK, but the
pathrules will be pretty flaky since they’re relying on a particular shape (like an icon or something) being present on the page.
I use rehike personally, it has the old layout so shorts are barely shown
Also with a browser extension. Wikihow has a page on how to do it 5 different ways.
yep, I use this on Firefox currently
Added and thank you!
How is it that such a shitty site/corporation has continued to maintain a grip on this market? Why aren’t we inundated with viable alternatives?
there’s peertube and odyssey but idk how viable either of them are long term. peertube at least is decentralized, not sure if odyssey is too or not
i know Louis Rossmann also posts on Odyssey
Peertube works.
Hosting video is expensive?
That’s basically it. The only potential competitor is Twitch, but even then Amazon only really gets into free streaming content.
Google has cheap hosting costs and the best ad market in the industry. The only non-porn competitors either charge the uploader to host or charge the user to watch.
Yeah. Everyone thinks it’s easy to just “setup a YouTube”.
I support nebula which is a subscription service with some good creators. And because “fuck shorts and clickbait titles/thumbnails”.
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Nebula is making good inroads. It’s well positioned to (eventually) make a shift from “YouTube parasite” to “YouTube alternative”.
Also fighting copyright claims from the music and movie industry is even more expensive and difficult.
Microsoft (with their Azure) has more than enough storage space. They got CDNs and video streaming technologies (that anyone can use in their own products). But they’ve still given up their own music streaming service and public video upload service.
Well it doesn’t hurt that they have some of the fastest servers on the planet running everything, and boatloads of data centers for storage and backups. Have you ever noticed how rarely videos will buffer nowadays? Even at extremely high resolution their videos will load almost instantly on only an average internet connection. A lot of other places can’t say the same, because it takes a very big investment to have world class servers and data connections.
Because it has all the good content. The creators are what makes watching YouTube so fun, not the site itself.
Reduced the amount of videos per row too, had to find a ublock filter for that one.
If anyone is interested: https://pastebin.com/raw/SMVYXFHe
That format was fine, actually, since it chucked all the shorts into a single row, then you can scroll by them easily. My sub page has gone back to interspersing them in-line with normal videos and it’s massively infuriating.
I haven’t used that page even once after started using pocket tube extension.
Welcome to the worlds best anti-monopoly education. See just why monopolies suck in real time!
Monopolies are problematic, of course, but it’s more than that. Monopolies, especially in the luxury space, still have to compete with consumers making the choice to not consume at all.
It’s more nefarious than that. This is a symptom of “you are the product, not the paying customer”. You get absolutely no say in how to product is used, and worse, your experience will actively be harmed if it means the real client, advertisers, get more value extracted out of you.
Y’all just sheep walking happily into the slaughterhouse, thinking the farmer is here to feed and shelter you, and it’s just missfortune that the farmer has to put you in some dirty cages, when in fact, the farmer does this intentionally because it’s more profitable that way.
Having two factory farms (TikTok) doesn’t make the conditions for the animals better. In fact maybe it even makes it worse, as the farms compete to cut costs.
The real solution is a new buisness model. Organic farms… Or payed video platforms, where the solution provider builds the software for the user, not advertisers.
I fucking hate shorts so much. I completely blocked them:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-shorts-block/ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-shorts-block/jiaopdjbehhjgokpphdfgmapkobbnmjp
It’s amazing how much YouTube doesn’t understand what people do and don’t like about TikTok
Watching every platform ruin itself to become a facsimile of every other platform is deeply infuriating and exhausting
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BUT THE MARKET SHARE!!!
I honestly can’t figure out what anyone actually likes about tiktok. I installed it and after 30 minutes was annoyed with the autoplaying and having things just forced on me. I want to choose what to play. All the time, I hate anything anywhere that autoplays, and I don’t understand how anyone actually enjoys that. Its like being told that being poked in the eye with a needle was really popular.
It feeds an anxious brain’s desire for dopamine. Just “here’s a nonstop feed of easy to digest content.” I think it’s kinda predatory, tbh, and that’s not to get into anything else about the company
I just installed the Youtube-shorts block extension which is available for both chrome & firefox. Between that and still using a revanced patched youtube apk hopefully I never have to see shorts again.
I am just blocking that tiktok shit with browser extension.
Shorts are nothing but thirst traps for me. Damn it’s hard not to click, but I regret it every time I do. There’s never actually good content in them.
we really want the TikTok audience
I’m gonna have to set something up to hide the thirst trap shorts of the girl who plays guitar poolside in either just a bra or braless in a thin light colored shirt. I just want videos from old dudes who teach me how to make pedal circuits.
I’m sure she’s good, but god, sometimes I wonder about her mental health. I know she actively uploads those videos, but what does it feel like needing to objectify yourself to try to get people to notice your talent? And also if I wanted a thirst trap video of someone playing guitar, goddammit, I want 3 minutes to rock out to
I don’t mind people being in the business of being sexy. I just don’t go to YouTube for that. I mainly use my YouTube on a living room HTPC. I go out of my way to keep a clean recommendation profile so I don’t have to explain embarrassing videos that pop up when I have people over. YouTube just really wants me to see her.
I tried a few ‘shorts’ blocking extensions on Firefox with weird and inconsistent results. I started hiding every ‘short’ on my subs page before picking anything to watch. They’ve magically disappeared as of a couple days ago.
