Reddit tried to sticky this post for moderators around 12p CST today, and they’ve since tried to bury it. Thought it might be good to back up the link here.
Pathetic.
Any chance for a screenshot or an archive.org link so I don’t have to give the site my eyeballs? :-)
Oh wow Teddit still works?
This has “I’m just here so I don’t get fined” vibes
I love how some commenters are so great with words and feelings. Just when you think someone has explained perfectly how we feel, another person says something else which explains another aspect of our feelings, making it even more perfect how we feel. And so on.
Completely ignored any questions or comments about PR or the conduct of reddit staff. Answered all of 7 questions, probably plants.
This seems to be their modus operandi for visible communication… Answer a few pre-baked questions to make things look nice for the press. Meanwhile, behind closed doors, it’s still a dumpster fire full of tires, oil, and gasoline. One dude is telling all the onlookers to stay calm, while everyone else is throwing wood, paper, water, etc on it to “try” to put it out.
They’re aiming to replace the mods with AI, aren’t they.
They can’t. Not without removing the part that makes reddit worthwhile, which are small dedicated communities.
Sure, an AI can moderate shit like /pics /politics /funny /gaming. Those are basically just garbage article/repost feeds anyway.
Can an AI moderate say… buildapcsales? Where you need a human moderator to verify if the deal is valid, add additional info to the flair and mark deals as expired? Technically yes, but it would require a specially trained AI, that knows how to scrape particular websites and avoid detection, which is not a great look for reddit and is also a ton of work.
What about a TV show subreddit? There has been instances where episodes were leaked, and the moderators had to protect the community from spoilers. Can an AI do it? Again, if it’s manually trained on this new data it could. But are reddit employees going to illegally download leaked episodes to feed the to the algorithm?
At that point, you’d be spending more time and money on babysitting each AI than if you just moderated manually.
I think Reddit leadership has lost sight of what makes them worth visiting and is trying to simplify everything to become another Instagram/Tiktok.
Give it two years and it’ll be barely recognizable with this leadership, at which point another leader will be brought in to try to return it back to what it was but it will be too late.
Yeah within a year I reckon all NSFW stuff, or at least porn, will be completely banned. That will be what really triggers the downfall of the sites population.
ChatGPT has a token limit to read and write, so with ai mods they would have to pay them. Therefore they can’t.
Not a great situation overall. Sounds like they’re scrambling to give some semblance of support for mods, seems a little late now guys
The best thing reddit could come up with is… More unpaid work for mods to do!
I know I love making time on a busy work day to volunteer for a large company that doesn’t respect my efforts. Maybe they’ll send me a sticker or something.
I think Reddit got caught off guard by the mod issue, but were in too deep in trying to kill third party apps to do anything about it.
That we’re in the third week of July and Reddit hasn’t gotten back to normal must be hard for them to understand.
Feels like they need them for unpaid work, but also don’t want to give them too much power. A pretty interested conundrum. Glad I’m not spending effort maintaining a subreddit given how thankless the job is 🤯
The CEO decided to flex and disregard massive blowback at an unpopular change. He marginalized his dissenters in interviews, saying shit that implied the dissenters were childish and their impotent tantrum will run out of steam.
For the CEO of the biggest internet social platform, he has no fucking idea how volatile the internet temperament is. You don’t just poke the bear and walk away unscathed.
He fails to realize how fickle internet communities can be. It should be obvious based on what happened to Digg and Slashdot. If you mess with your users, they’ll just leave. They should have been trying to keep them happy, not doing everything they can to alienate them. Reddit could have reached their profitability goals without making everyone mad. Instead they just keep digging their grave deeper. This lazy attempt to mitigate dissent means nothing, the damage is beyond repair.
No mention of the tools they fucked up that they are replacing? Just a bunch of meetings for people who aren’t employees? Lmao get bent.
What a trainwreck of a thread
OP:
This community filters comments from anyone who isn’t a mod of an active community with more than 50 subscribers. […]
Yep, you’re right. It should be disclosed on the sidebar. We won’t do it right now for obvious reasons, but will have this updated before the next post.
So we’re witnessesing a thread of angry mods being angry, OP is cherry picking comments and still can’t manage to listen to them.
Also many of the people complaining that their posts are being filtered are mods of communities larger than 50 users, one person pointed out that they mod two subs of more than 500,000 people.
So they lied while acting pretentious, again. To the surprise of no one.
I see that negative vote count has been removed and now the post just says “0”. We’re living in the thin-skin age.
Reddit has always done that for posts
Back in my day, they did have negative values. I want to say the EA Star Wars Battlefront fiasco was about the time they switched to hiding how very hated a post/comment is.
They used to not even be combined. You had separate up and down vote counters. The they combined them, and you could go negative and even get a cross it it was controversial.
Actually not always. I remember the good ol’ days of early Reddit where you could have astronomically negative votes on posts. Back in the simpler times when r/f7u12 and rAdviceAnimals ruled. It was only a feel years ago when they changed how upvotes and downvotes worked
Let me get this straight- they want mods to have live business meetings with them? As if they’re employees?
At this point, I fully expect reddit to ask the mods to pay a subscription to maintain their mod status in the future.
Once the floodgate of bad decisions has started, it’s not really possible to stop it.
“Reddit as a hosting service. We provide you the infrastructure and discoverability necessary to build and maintain a growing community. Yours for only $50/month!”
Don’t give them ideas because that’s actually kind of too brilliant for them — instead of selling ads only, also directly sell the user base to interested parties.
Now imagine companies openly buying moderator positions to take over their own subreddit.
It can always get worse.
This comment thread reads like a corporate brainstorming session.
"hmmm. But is there any way we can exploit brown people in some brown country while doing this?’
all that is missing.
The word “openly” is the only thing that separates your comment from currently-happening-reality. Plenty of subs and their mods are bought and paid for.
Also this whole post from the VP is such a load of shit. “We have a seat for you at the table… if you want it.” Boy only a VP in a big corporation could keep a mouth so loaded with horseshit.
Lol, this is straight up corporate schpeel for turning reddit into Amway.
schpeel
Spiel
I anticipate in the future that that mods will be required to fill out weekly TPS reports. However, if you only have one subreddit you’re moderating, please use up the old cover sheets. If you’re moderating two or more subreddits, please use the new cover sheet. Did you get the memo on this? I’ll send you a copy of the memo.
Yyeeeaaah, I’m gonna need to to stay late and do some more moderating.
Fuck Reddit and fuck everyone running it. During my last months there I was subject to continuous harassment and explicit death threats from one specific troll. When I brought this to the admins, they told me pound sand. They didn’t do a fucking thing. Nothing.
I’m very tempted to put together a dossier of all these interactions and start sending emails to marketing departments of the most common reddit advertisers and make sure they understand the platform they are using to sell shit to people.
If you’re comfortable with doing so, make that dossier public as well
Yes please
I’m very tempted to put together a dossier of all these interactions and start sending emails to marketing departments of the most common reddit advertisers and make sure they understand the platform they are using to sell shit to people.
Do it.
Lol this saga is just too funny to me now that I’ve jumped ship. The admins just keep digging
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There’s a couple of communities like noncredibledefense and ask historians that I still miss but I recognize that communities won’t spring up here overnight
Be the change you want to see and start them!
AskHistorians is s particularly special place. It’s not as simple as just starting it.
I miss that one too. Have the mods there discussed moving to Lemmy?
I recall reading they were moving to discord if I’m not mistaken
There is a noncredibledefense here that I should post in more, but I only have an undergraduate degree in history so I wouldn’t feel right posing as a historian
“We’re gonna listen to your complaints. We’re not actually gonna do anything about them, but we will listen to them. Oh, and please don’t record our meetings so that when the bad press about these meetings comes out and we lie about them, there won’t be proof of us lying this time kthxbye!”
I wonder if they’re just testing the waters to see if the sentiment has changed at all. They’ll probably keep posting similar at regular intervals to verify that the backlash is subsiding.
I think it’s less a change in sentiment and more if they’ve driven away all but the “true believers”. I know the sub I modded lost almost all their long time active mods and are down to the bottom of barrel with a few exceptions (whom all don’t seem long for the sub either at least at the time of my exit).
Wow. What a shitstorm…
