• SharkEatingBreakfast@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I am a mod of a dedicated niche Discord fanclub server. We run the server well enough that the actual creator of the thing we like & owner/admin of the official server pops in occasionally to say hi, interact, and give updates on events & future releases. Hell, even the mod team from the official server joined our server for a more casual experience.

    If I wasn’t passionate about the subject, there’s no way I’d be helping to maintain it out of the “good of my heart”. The work of moderating something with an ultra-large fanbase? If you don’t truly and passionately care about it, forget it! And even if you did, it can still be too much of am endeavor to put up with for free!

    To let just any rando moderate a community will lead to its downfall. I’m especially worried when it comes to things like mental health & recovery subs.

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    Not to rain on the ‘fuck reddit’ parade, because well, fuck reddit, but the volunteer mod requests in the image are all two to three months old. Wasn’t all the backlash from the API decision only in mid-June?

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      Yeah, I don’t understand why they posted this image. There’s much more current posts of the same thing, some in the last two days.

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      Great point, but if they were struggling to find mods before the meltdown it does not bode well.

      I follow a sports team sub. On most days we discuss players, teams, etc. But on game day a mob of rowdy people stop by. The game threads get several posts a minute. I cannot image trying to police that while trying to watch the game.

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        That’s the thing. We never did. We were all watching the games, then going through the threads afterwards.

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        I’m guessing a lot of the NSFW subs saw this as the final straw and just went to nsfw lemmy instead. Since they seem to be pravalent in all the “we need mods” posts.

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          I haven’t even looked honestly, just looked up the account. I don’t really care whether they fill them or not, I only go back to reddit now for /r/sbcgaming and /r/ereader since those communities haven’t really picked up here yet (though maybe they will in time).

          Edit - I just looked. It seems to be a lot of people saying “I wouldn’t be a good mod, no thanks” or “let me be a mod, I’ll totally let people post lewd pics,” “pick me, I’ll reinstate the old mods,” “I’ll gladly abuse my power, sure” and stuff of that variety. So no, doesn’t look like it’s a big rush to fill the spots. Mostly a lot of snark for the majority of them. MaleFashionAdvice seemed to be an exception with people looking to take the mod spot and they were all ridiculously downvoted.

          Edit 2 - I especially liked this one:

          u/spez can take his IPO and shove it up his ass. Join us at Lemmy. We can build it into something corporate dickwads can’t take from us.

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          r/mensfashion is one of the bigger subreddits where this is happening. I read through the post. Everyone who expressed interest was getting down voted like crazy.

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      Can you see the solid red Snoo avatar next to each post?

      Yeah, those are Reddit admins.

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        Who else would post such stuff? Regular users, other mods? If a sub has no mods the admins have to step in. So this distinction you are making serves no purpose.

        This bot account is actually making recent posts, why the fuck is there a pic of these months old one?

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        He’s pointing out the requests are too old to be in response to the APIcalypse, not that they’re not admin requests.

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      Because it could literally be life or death, I wouldn’t put it past them to take a page from the ED warmline and try using bots. It sure worked for NEDA… /s

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    Let me tell you how I nearly downvoted the post reflexively because of the title. My bad on that, and seriously, what the fuck reddit. What utter trash.

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        Honestly at this point if that happens often enough and drives even more “regular” redditors away from reddit (and hopefully to Lemmy), I’m all for it.

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      People will line up by the thousands to become a new moderator. Reddit will keep their free labour.

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        I would love to see what happens, its psycologically convieniemt to say its good evidence, its honestly a question of percentages. What percent will moderate the hellsite and what percent will be earnist.

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        People are downvoting you because they’d like to see otherwise, but you’re right. Hell, I’d like to see otherwise, but it’s not gonna happen.

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        Of course they will, and at least 90% of those will stop moderating within a week bcause they have no idea what it entails and just like the sound of having power.

        Another 9.99% will push personal agendas, post ads, malware, etc. or a dozen other things that will kill the sub.

        In the end they’ll probably get decent moderatos for less than a tenth of those they seek.

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          That is just wishful thinking. A large number of people on reddit still use it a lot. Enough to not mind sitting there and moderating. If someone stops moderating they know they can be replaced really quickly now.

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            Counterpoint, the quality of moderation was already pretty patchy, and the quality will continue to decrease. The mods who left are the ones with the most integrity. In my opinion, stepping down in protest is a sign of integrity, which is a key trait of a good mod.

            The conclusion that the replacements will be worse is just a statistical average taken at face value, so who knows for sure. It isn’t an ironclad conclusion, but I think it’s a bit better than mere wishful thinking.

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              I think terms like “better” or “worse” are a bit misleading in this case.

              Suppose 10% of all newly appointed mods are enough of a good fit for reddit & the community to fulfil the role indefinitely. The other 90% are shit, but will either get sick of it or be exposed as shit within a few months. If you keep rolling the dice, while keeping the less-shit ones then over time the quality of the pool will improve.

              I think we also need to acknowledge that reddit is changing. Perhaps you and me prefer the way it was, but there’s plenty of people will be just as happy or happier with whatever it becomes. In some ways maybe newly appointed mods can be a better fit, or able to grow into whatever it is that reddit is becoming.

              So while undoubtedly the quality of moderation in some subs will take a nose dive, and may even cause some subs to die, I’m not convince that it will be a significant detriment to reddit’s advertising revenue in the long term. Note that I’m not saying the user experience will ever improve - I think that’s dead.

              With all that in mind, I just can’t imagine being a reddit mod, and it’s hard to believe reddit mods saying that they do it for the community. Volunteering for things you care about is great, but you need to keep some dignity.

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                over time the quality of the pool will improve.

                Do you think that’s likely to play out in their favor by IPO time?

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            Let’s say they have lost 50% of the regular contributors (very optimistic), that still leaves thousands of potential mods.

            Another mass exodus will only happen if Reddit continues to rock the boat musk fashion, else it will take years for people to move on.

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              Another mass exodus will only happen if Reddit continues to rock the boat musk fashion

              They haven’t taken down old.reddit yet.

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        there’s a lot of people clammering at the opportunity to shape conservations that fit their agenda. at least the cookers in the past were generally laughed out of the room but I’ve seen quite a few make concerted efforts to control certain subs