Every accusation is a confession
It’s amazing how much of fundamentalist Islamic culture is putting restrictions on others because these men have no self control.
That’s not how it works with fundamentalists and I wouldn’t trust the freaking Daily Mail tabloid to define any culture at all.
Explain how this is not exactly how it works. Isn’t the whole point of internal jihad fighting against ones own weaknesses and faults to be closer to God. How is forcing beards on Men or women to cover everything but their eyes nothing more than failing in that jihad and making your own lust everyone else’s problem.
Well I’m not a fundamentalist but I can help you sort that out. There’s nothing actually in the religion that says to force beards on anyone, they are considered a good deed if done to emulate the Prophets but there’s no sin on anyone who can’t have one. ISIS basically made that rule up, but then again they did the exact opposite of so much of the religion it’s hardly a surprise anymore.
Second, there’s nothing in the religion saying women have to cover their faces, it’s explicitly allowed by hadith. The reason some people do it is because they have a different mindset than you do; to them its about having privacy. Muslim women who cover their faces are trying to keep out of the public eye and ask you to judge their ideas and speech rather than focus on what makeup they have on. You may not realize it, but they generally think that ‘western’ women are oppressed because nobody takes them seriously or gives them attention unless they make themselves prettier. The other part of the mindset is that when you treasure something you guard it and not necessarily show it off to everyone. Muslim men are expected to guard women in their family with their own lives.
Covering oneself is therefore NOT about “making your own lust everyone else’s problem” but its about one’s own privacy. You can never control other people’s lusts and even ISIS didn’t claim to try to do that. The Taliban claimed that they were doing it for CULTURAL reasons not religious ones, because they knew they had no actual religious textual basis to make such a claim and that’s why they were condemned by Muslim countries worldwide. Lastly, men AND women are expected to cover themselves, which is why you see men in turbans and women in headscarves.
So on your first point, when I say fundamentalist, I mean people like ISIS, the Taliban or this chucklefuck of a preacher, who may not have any religious justification for their words or actions, but impose it on others anyhow, and take any kind of deviation of their idea of Islam to be infidelity. This is the same sort of shit many fundamental Evangelicals do with Christianity, where their interpretation or ideas on the faith are imposed on others. Their actions may not be justifiable to a sane Christian or Muslim, but to them they are the true believers, and will treat anyone else as heretical.
I mean to the women who cover by choice, Especially via niqab or hijab I’ve always took it as a form of piety towards God, much like how habits are worn by nuns or sashes by buddhists monks. And to that extent I respect it, because they are making that choice to worship in the way they see fit. It’s about their devotion to god rather than their role in society. The other points you bring out about privacy or being respected for their ideas rather than beauty, that still feels like it comes down to the weakness of men. And don’t get me wrong, Western society is guilty of this as well. I don’t even have to go off this site to see people objectifying women, and how women who post online often have to be very careful on what they show and reveal. A recent trend I’ve seen online is that women will even censor their armpits or legs in pictures, cause there is no part of the human body people won’t fetishize. This is a weakness in nearly all societies, and slut and body shaming is something that still happens frequently in western cultures. For the most part though, Women can still live their day to day lives without sacrificing their own comfort or expression, and men are expected to exercise self control. To me, in places where full burqa is mandatory, it just seems like the burden is placed more upon women to make up for men’s weaknesses.
Like you’ve said, I am a westerner living in western society (Though I have lived somewhat outside of it for a number of years) with a western perspective. But from someone who comes from a fundamentalist Christian background, who left because I was tired of the hypocrisy, I can’t help but see that same hypocrisy in people like this preacher.
Don’t even have to say Islamic. Same shit with anyone who thinks they can be extra hardcore religious to stop their deep perversions.
Agreed. I dealt with this same shit in my church and among some of my peers.
worst chomo culture ever
I don’t like pcms. On Reddit they were mainly a vehicle to legitimate far right views as a normal position on the political spectrum.
Pfft, everyone knows that
Does the beard on my balls count?
Sometimes I like to twirl my nut and shaft mustach
Let me take a nice close look to see if it makes me feel gay.
Not surprised this comes from some dumb islamic anti-freedom fool. I couldn’t even grow a beard if I tried. 😆 Guess I’d be raped on a daily basis if I lived in a country with this kind of medieval mentality prevalent throughout the population. Or maybe that guy is just a derp talking more than he should, making a fool of himself, the religion he represents, and his country.
Tell me you’re attracted to men without telling me you’re attracted to men.
Tell me you touch young boys without telling me you touch young boys.
Doesn’t take a lot to make a right-winger project, does it?
Religious conservatives are just weird. Always disturbed me they allowed the Afghans to continue their dancing boy practice just to keep the peace. Look at Iraq burning shit down because a Muslim staged a protest in a free country far far away. I bet they’d dance if the Torah or Bible was the subject of a burning. Fragile people for sure.
Me, taking three busses to the city hall meeting, getting there early so I can get my name on the list, and then waiting for three more hours until my name is called:
“LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ANNOUNCE THAT I AM VERY HETEROSEXUAL.”
Translation: “I like twinks and I don’t know how to process that”
I don’t know what is worse - the fact that this kind of logic flew for centuries, or the fact that these people still don’t realize that yelling “I AM DEFINITELY NOT GAY YOU CAN TELL BY HOW SERIOUS I TAKE THESE MATTERS” is honestly a pretty terrible way of convincing people you aren’t gay.
Why are they so gay and are afraid to show it?
Wait until they find out about femboys
Or hot trannies with big boobs
but he looks Amish without a mustache.
