Last year, CBS correspondent David Pogue commented on the sub’s “jerry-rigged” design before
A shame that this keeps getting brought up. Yeah, some of the stuff was super-basic. But the absolutely key component, ie, the pressure vessel itself, was anything but jerry-rigged.
That said, I’m really curious how the pressure vessel failed. My random guess is that the viewport glass (which may not have been glass at all) cracked and then ruptured. I know that one of the vessels that has been down to the Mariana Trench experienced glass cracking; that was definitely a sweaty palms moment for the crew.
Also, given that the hatch had to be bolted shut from the outside, I’ve been wondering whether they need to be set to specific torque values each time. Meaning, what would happen if they were unevenly torqued down? My bet is you’d get uneven warping where the hatch mates to the vessel cylinder. Even if the warping is microscopic at sea level, the stress differential would get magnified at depth.
It’s also got to be pretty rattling to folks like David Pogue who have already been passengers. I’ve heard David himself say he’s still trying to process it all. But there’s got to be an ample heaping dose of “holy shit, that could have been me if the dice had fallen differently”. It’s already started to bother me that he keeps getting pulled into interviews; the first one was fine, but to keep pressing him with “what are your thoughts/feelings”… I’d rather buy him a beer and talk about literally anything else, so he can have a breather.
Why are you posting about the Titan sub in a thread about a Reddit community of transcribers that will be closing?
it’s a known bug in Lemmy. sometimes comments get sent to the wrong thread
Well, first off, you’re in the wrong thread. Your points are valid: the viewport glass was technically rated for the depth, but the viewport company said that they wouldn’t actually stand behind it because OceanGate was using a different hull. The viewport company suggested a different viewport but it was more expensive and OceanGate refused.
The torque on the bolts wasn’t something that had occurred to me and is interesting.
My theory is that the carbon fiber hull collapsed, due to the strain of pressure cycling. It’s something the whistleblower was concerned about, and apparently they accepted visibly flawed carbon fiber for the hull. You can read more here: https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/20/a-whistleblower-raised-safety-concerns-about-oceangates-submersible-in-2018-then-he-was-fired/
Your post has appeared in the wrong sub but the pressure vessel absolutely was jerry-rigged and the viewport wasn’t up to the job: A whistleblower raised safety concerns about OceanGate’s submersible in 2018. Then he was fired.
The report detailed “numerous issues that posed serious safety concerns,” according to the filing. These included Lochridge’s worry that “visible flaws” in the carbon fiber supplied to OceanGate raised the risk of small flaws expanding into larger tears during “pressure cycling.” These are the huge pressure changes that the submersible would experience as it made its way and from the deep ocean floor. He noted that a previously tested scale model of the hull had “prevalent flaws.”
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A day after filing his report, Lochridge was summoned to a meeting with Rush and company’s human resources, engineering and operations directors. There, the filing states, he was also informed that the manufacturer of the Titan’s forward viewport would only certify it to a depth of 1,300 meters due to OceanGate’s experimental design. The filing states that OceanGate refused to pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the Titan’s intended depth of 4,000 meters. The Titanic lies about 3,800 meters below the surface.idk if /c/LostLemmies exists, but this fits
Your comment has been posted in the wrong thread as I’m sure you’re aware by now. FWIW, this is a known Lemmy bug.
People are so gullible. Only now do they see reddit for what they are.
This is also why good poeple can’t understand how evil some people can be, and they think they must be misunderstood or it’s not their fault or something else.
Really impressed with the reporting from the verge on the Reddit protest and beyond.
They have come a long way since the “Screw with confidence” fiasco of that PC building tutorial.
I have been documenting some of the downfall myself-
https://static.xtremeownage.com/blog/2023/what-happened-to-reddit/
And let me just say- I don’t think the verge is missing many details at all. They have been ON TOP of this one.
That is an awesome write up; direct, clear, and not sensationalised! Thank you for taking the time to do that.
I think The Verge has been getting better over time. Its kind of a breath of fresh air they seem to mostly stay politically neutral and they occasionally use tasteful euphemisms while reporting very accurately. I miss Paul and Dieter but the newer people are doing great work too.
I think The Verge has been getting better over time
Agreed 100%. They use to just publish complete click-bait bullshit stories.
Nice summary, I’ll link confused normie friends to it.
BTW, the header on your site is very large on Firefox mobile
Oh wow, that doesn’t look good at all.
Chrome:
Firefox focus: Yup. Looks like crap.
I’ll have to mess around with this when I get time.
The enshittification doubles by the day, good lord
I love that this term has taken off! I also do not like that it’s needing to be used so much :(
Enshittification is the logical consequence of modern capitalism, where profit is the ONLY consideration. Satisfied customers, happy employees, sustainability, the environment - none of that is important to a modern CEO, only profit.
"We’ll no longer comment on hearsay, unsubstantiated claims, or baseless accusations from The Verge. We’ll be in touch as corrections are needed.”
Lmao
Gee, that sounds a lot like Tesla’s method of responding to any press inquiry with an automated poop emoji. I wonder why they’re taking a page from Musk’s booklet? /s
Tesla, not having a PR department, is notoriously hard to contact, but the one with the poop emoji is Twitter.
It would not surprise me if they have the same ethics: “didn’t happen unless you write it down.”
Too many idiot CEO’s still idealize musk, and think his current business moves are genius they just can’t understand yet.
BTW, I heard that they are on its way to lemmy https://reddit.adminforge.de/r/Blind/comments/14eaf68/open_alpha_rblind_a_community_on_lemmy_brought_to/?sort=new
That is actually really cool of them!
It just makes me so damn sad that a lot of blind/visually impaired people won’t be able to enjoy posts on Reddit anymore…
When are we going to get accessibility options coded up in Lemmy? That’s all I read, “Zombie Steve feasts on disabled people.”
I know I’m angry with Reddit atm, but that is the first time I have seen a Reddit post embedded in an article like that, I just had a look at the embed options and they are very good. I assume that Reddit is trying to fill the hole that Twitter left when Elon had no idea why embedded tweets were good for traffic.
It’s a shame that I strongly dislike too many of nuReddit features, it meant I missed the good ones using oldReddit.
It would be a very long way away, but a lemmy embedded feature in the future would be cool, I especially liked how you could opt for dark mode.
embedded tweets were good for traffic.
You know what embedded tweets weren’t good for? Try looking at some news articles from the trump administration and enjoy guessing what wild-ass shit the man said when there’s a blank spot where a tweet used to be.
Thank goodness for the archive sites
fucking hell. this sucks so fucking much. i hate these API changes so fucking much and there’s nothing i can do about it.
There is: delete everything on your account and then the account itself, then forget about them
Mass edit your stuff with the API while you can so people in the future will see why your comments are gone
I love them, let reddit die, we should have never trusted a centralized dictatorship of a corporation with our forums.
It should have died years ago. So glad people by the masses have realized enough is enough.
free speech cannot be monetized by a corp and remain free
Even innocuous things like removing a dislike button are about removing the power of users to be negative, or share it. Can’t have human expression affecting corporate profits, after all.
We need a public square that prioritizes the users, not whoever can think of a shitty way to profit off them.
imma push back against that just a little bit. the shape of ui elements, what sort of interactions a platform allows a person to make, are kinda arbitrary, and putting deliberate thought into how they are laid out is important. in real life social interactions, there is functionally no analogue for a like or dislike button. there are fully cogent arguments for not including “the power of users to be negative” that don’t rely on suppression of speech or whatever, because that power is kinda exclusive to online platforms to begin with, and can allow larger groups to suppress the visibility of people they don’t like. “being negative” in a social context is a tricky idea to pin down, and there are a lot of real life social contexts where “being negative” would be seen as anti-social.
in any case, a downvote is sorta equivalent to shouting somebody down, or interrupting somebody who’s talking. depending on how its implemented, it might actually be a pretty potent tool as suppressing discussion. in certain contexts it might be useful, but any utility it provides is necessarily less than articulating why you disagree with somebody with a comment.
Wholeheartedly disagree
Both with what a downvote means (closer to the other commenter) and to the importance of UI elements
none of it is arbitrary
Those “arbitrary” elements are very intentional
It’s intentional how many clicks it takes you to post, to agree, to disagree, to move on, etc.
It’s intentional that infinite scrolling takes no effort and happens automatically, while diving deeper into the conversation takes effort
All of those are decisions and as soon as those decisions are motivated more by money than by benefiting the person using it, it becomes cancerous to the values of free speech and open expression.
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I consider the down vote the equivalent of rolling my eyes when listening to an idiot ramble on. However, I can see your point as well.
Man, seeing people putting in effort from r/transcribersofreddit always reminded me about how many good people are in the world. It’s a shame they won’t be able to keep going, and even more of a shame that Reddit doesn’t care about blind people using their platform.
Reddit doesn’t care about anybody. not about its user community and the free content they provided, nor the mods and the free labour they provided, nor u/spez who’ll be discarded when they’re done with him, nor the admin who’re playing villain’s bullyboys to the T.
