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          Maybe someone who is armed and breaking into your grandmother’s home? Maybe crowd control for a municipal parade?

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            Maybe. Except they don’t show up until well after an incident, so I definitely don’t rely on them for my grandmothers safety.

            Now a parade! Now we’re talking. If I had to stand around during a municipal parade I would definitely act like I have the most dangerous job. T hank the Lord for the boys in blue being there for parades!

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              Okay so we just kind of let all grandma’s be targets of crime because nobody will ever try to arrest you?

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                  Some people (like the user above) seem to struggle with the concept that we can establish safer alternatives to police

                  Usually, they’re speaking from a place of privilege. There are many people who can’t rely on police to protect them (poor people, people of color, etc.), and if we have empathy, that should be all of our concern

                  ACAB

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      Covid was also a top fatality result of police for a while there. Just showcasing their amazing decision making skills as they refuse to get vaccinated.

      Clearly they represent the best of the best there.

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        My local city jail literally got shut down by the tail-end of the pandemic, because of all the COVID outbreaks due to none of the cops would wear masks.

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      Depends where you live, over here the police are friendly and will talk instead of shoot. and if they shoot, they will have a hearing, to check if they have shot according to the law. hence, depends on the law in your county if the protectors of the normal people are nice or not.

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    I feel like a position of authority, the weapons, and the qualified immunity letting you put hands on anyone for any bullshit reason you want make you the danger, not in danger.

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        Really depends on the country. In the US, death rate is really low. There might be a couple instances of getting shot at, but you’re so much less likely to die of other causes it ironically makes up for it.

        Of course, you get these spikes in death rates in the military, like if you’re sent to an active warzone. We just measure “dangerous jobs” by year.

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        Even if it’s counted, is it even more dangerous, counted using the same metrics? I have no idea, but it’s not far-fetched that it’s not, at least if we mean American soldiers. Like, it’s way more dangerous to be an Iraqi civilian than an American soldier.

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    I thought the most dangerous one was president, at an 18% fatality rate (8 out of 45 so far)

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        Violence and diseases. In consequence many sex workers get hurt regularly during their job, some get killed and many have PTSD and/or abuse drugs and alcohol.

        In countries were sex work is legal this does not get significantly better, btw. I live in Germany where sex work is legal since 1950 or something and it’s a job you even have to pay tax for. They still suffer from violence. There was a protest this year to give better protection from violence.

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      Bush pilots probably drive the statistics up pretty far because it’s dangerous in general and many of them keep flying long after commercial retirement ages.

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      Most pilots aren’t commerical passenger pilots. Most are crop dusters and priority freight

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      And yet they do, statistically, die more than most other jobs. Pilots have every business being on here because the comic creator just literally took a “top X dangerous jobs list” and turned it into a meme.

      Passengering is safe. Piloting, less so. Just like riding in a bus is statistically safer than being a career driver. Because you get off the bus, and that driver does 7 more runs. Alongside a long-haul truck driver carrying zero people. Etc. But Piloting is more dangerous than driving a truck.

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        Piloting of what aircraft type?

        It’s pretty rare to hear about a commercial flight resulting in a crash or even death.

        If you’re talking about commercial pilots flying around passengers then no it’s not dangerous at all, certainly not compared to truck drivers. To say it’s dangerous because they do it everyday is silly. Reality is it’s one of the safest forms of travel. Trucking is not nearly as safe and has a lot more risk factors involved.

        If you’re strictly talking about bush pilots then you might have a case but there’s not as many bush pilots compared to commercial pilots in order for it to significantly skew the statistics.

        A lot more truck drivers die in a year from accidents then commercial pilots. Calling it more dangerous is hella silly bro.

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          I mean, we’re talking pretty much anyone who flies an airplane for any commercial purpose. Bush flying, remote cargo flights in small aircraft, crop-dusting, helicopter lifting, hell even helicopter logging.

          And while more truck drivers die annually than pilots, what we’re discussing here are RATES of death per capita, not individual deaths. An individual is statistically more likely to be killed flying as a commercial pilot (in any capacity) than a truck driver is to be killed while on the job.

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    But the other professions don’t need to defend themselves against blatant racism and abuse of power. “This is a dangerous profession, which is why we shot an unarmed black teenager 117 times.”

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    It’s because they have too much power. Gets to their head. Same with politicians, though they usually don’t go round shooting people.

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    Idk man.

    I’ve been privileged enough to live in mostly good neighborhoods throughout my life and especially in smaller towns those police do good, often difficult work. Bringing home some town drunk who’s acting difficult with access to a gun for example without it becoming an escalated scene IMO is a feat I could not do.

    I just wish that in the more dangerous areas and areas where we are having trouble with police brutality for example, we could have offers to police with good standing to be relocated and compensated to help move out the bad police.

    So for example if we’re having issues with police brutality in Portland OR, fire those police, then pay to relocate police with high standing clean records from diverse areas to move to these areas.

    The things I see in California sometimes I’m not sure that there’s an amount of money you could pay me to deal with half these things.

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      Tons of jobs deal with all sorts of annoyances. Policing is objectively not the most dangerous job. The vast majority of issues police tend to face are systemic and better addressed by giving police department money to other programs.

      And relatedly social workers are dollar for dollar far more effective, and when they mess up they don’t turn passersby into Swiss cheese.

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    Where do you get the idea that pilot is the 3rd most dangerous job? How often do you hear about pilots dying? And more dangerous than driving jobs? Lol no.

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    Police officers have the highest suicide rate after Doctors and Dentists. Not sure if it’s because of poor stress management or being constantly in contact with some of the shittiest people to live.

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      “being constantly in contact with some of the shittiest people to live.”

      So other cops then. I’d probably kill myself too if I were a cop.

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        Lets be honest, plenty non cops are really shitty in ways different from the shitty that drives you to be a cop. Cops do deal with these other people as well. So a cop has shitty people on all sides.

        Its an impossible tasks and society must construct itself as to not have police bc they cannot do the job asked even regardless of the value of the work (which is none as well)

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    Where do you get the idea that pilot is the 3rd most dangerous job? How often do you hear about pilots dying? And more dangerous than driving jobs? Lol no.