Summary

In a Fox News interview, Donald Trump argued that Ukraine should not have resisted Russia’s 2022 invasion, claiming Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy should have made a deal with Vladimir Putin.

Trump criticized Zelenskyy for choosing to fight, compared the military strength of Russia and Ukraine, and said he could have ended the war quickly through negotiations.

Trump’s stance contrasts with Joe Biden’s strong support for Ukraine, including aid and sanctions on Russia.

  • Vytle@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Trump is chose to continue giving aide to Ukraine. This is just bullshit so he can appear to be trying to lower taxes

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      10 days ago

      I wouldn’t be so confident about that, considering that Trump is known to spew so much bullshit that the truth is hard to parse from it.

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    10 days ago

    Well yeah, and now he’s taking this move from Putin’s playbook for Greenland. He’s at the “people in Greenland would rather be US citizens” stage. Putin did the same thing in the beginning when talking about the territories in Ukraine he wanted to take.

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    12 days ago

    So president of a nation that has the motto “give me liberty or give me death” is saying this.

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      12 days ago

      The people who voted for him tend to prefer “Don’t tread on me” which makes it even more ironic.

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        12 days ago

        Any time I see those stickers, flags or license plates I have a deep urge to reenact the curb stomping scene from American History X using the person who has it/them.

      • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
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        12 days ago

        Well yeah, the full saying is “Don’t tread on me, tread on ukraine instead”. They just shortened it

  • FelixCress@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Donald Trump argued that Ukraine should not have resisted Russia’s 2022 invasion

    *Trump was an idiot as usual, arguing (…)

    • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      12 days ago

      Well, this is not the best argument given Poland’s history of being nonexistent for 123 years until a deal was made. On the other hand, the German-Russian invasion of 1939 is the prime example of a war of aggression.

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    12 days ago

    Why people keep listening to what that being says? Just respond to his actions, anthing else is useless…

    • _cnt0@sh.itjust.works
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      12 days ago

      Why people keep listening to what that being turd says? Just respond to his actions, anthing else is useless…

      ftfy

    • IsoSpandy@lemm.ee
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      That being controls almost 50% of the world’s nuclear arsenal. That’s why.

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        So? He will do as he pleases, doesn’t he? Why even answer when he changes the name of a geographical landmark, threat with invasions or economic punishments? He is a bully, the most useless thing to attempt with a bully is trying to speak him into reason or concede him the recognition of dialogue capability, it just let him to probe the breaking point of the abuse, there should be zero tolerance to such being, and urge to back up all the dependencies with other allies asap, the alternative is submission up to nearly the breaking point of the abuse. That’s my opinion…

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    12 days ago

    OTOH, I also heard him quoted trying to get Saudi Arabia to flood the market with cheap oil to try and force Russia to the table. Makes sense, since oil has been the last big export Russia has to make money on. I’m opposed to Trump and his stupid fucking Nazi pals on pretty much everything, but I guess even broken clocks can be right twice a day. It’d be nice to see this meat grinder closed down with a treaty, instead of the US deciding to do a rugpull on Ukraine. Ofc, I support the Ukrainian people’s right to self determination. If they want to keep fighting, that’s their right, but putting Russia on an economic back foot would probably meaningfully help negotiations.

    Source (didn’t read, heard about it on NPR)

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/23/oil-turns-lower-after-trump-says-hell-ask-saudi-arabia-and-opec-to-bring-the-price-down.html

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      But this just makes sense if russia would be sanktioned before. Because if russia wouldnt have started a war, russia could still sell and buy everything. So if the oil price dumps there wont be the same effect as now.

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        Aren’t the Biden era sanctions still active? IIRC, sketchy off grid oil sales and sales to India/China are basically what’s keeping Russia going at this point. If the market gets flooded with cheap OPEC oil, that would be a major baseball bat to the knee.

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          Yeah, but for Trump to use the strategy of flooding the market with cheap oil, there had to be a war. Without the war and the sanctions it wouldnt be possible to cripple russia with cheap oil.

          I just say this because it sounds like you mean, that Trump is smart to come with this idea. But it still didnt happen and it wouldnt be so effective if there was no war.

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      C’mon, if we’re doing WWII analogies he doesn’t get to be an allied leader, even if Chamberlain was a really bad one.

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    Does he really believe this, or is this redirected anger because he’s finally figured out that he can’t, in fact, just solve it?

    Probably, Putin told him to pound sand, and then OPEC basically just ignored him when collapsing oil prices was the next idea.

    • blarth@thelemmy.club
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      Putin didn’t tell him to pound sand. Putin holds the leash. Everything Donald Trump says and does is to advance Russian interests.

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        I see little evidence of that. At most Putin has a small amount of leverage on him. Basically, there’s just a lot of stuff good for Putin Trump could do but doesn’t.

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            He also has been publicly threatening to economically destroy Russia for the last week, so there, a bit of evidence both ways.

            Meanwhile, he could order assassinations in Ukraine if he wanted to and nobody could stop him.

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              Trump says a lot of shit. He also said Ukraine shouldn’t have fought back.

              Actions speak louder than words.

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                His pro-Russia actions are way more weak than I would allow if I were Putin and actually controlled him, though.

                • blarth@thelemmy.club
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                  Because of the separation of powers and checks and balances we have in the US, he doesn’t have unilateral power to do whatever he wants. He can typically only inch toward Putin’s goals. Why do you think he is trying to weaken our relationships with our allies through tariffs and talk of land grabs?

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                  11 days ago

                  In less than a week, he’s fucked up relations with Mexico, Canada and the EU. California had proposed secession. In less than a week. This is all Putin’s marching orders, being enacted in broad daylight, and your response is “kinda weak”?

                  At least you’ve kept your head warm this winter, placing it firmly up your backside as you’ve obviously done.