• Venia Silente@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Technically if some idiot hands you one of those, you can have them citizen-arrested for counterfeiting money, right?

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      11 months ago

      citizen-arrested

      Don’t do this. In almost every case it’s technically illegal imprisonment – leaving you at the mercy of a prosecutor.

    • Cianalas@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Maybe, but also only if it’s trying to be used as cash. Trying to pay for groceries, meal, depositing it at a bank, etc. would be an issue. Leaving it as a tip, while a scummy thing to do, isn’t on the same ballpark since it’s not an agreed upon transaction (i.e. no price for a tip is agreed upon by the parties), and you’d have to prove intent to pass it off as cash and not just a flyer/pamphlet.

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    11 months ago

    Hopefully all of Trump’s supporters do this.

    Can’t think of any better way to guarantee his defeat, if he’s even a free man by that point.

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      11 months ago

      It’s a terrible practice and ultimately hurts workers. It should be banned simply because it promotes worker tax evasion, which is not what I really care about here, but it’s a good reason to make it illegal. Making it illegal is only way to stop it in the US. It’s absolutely rampant. You pick up donuts At the dunkin store and they ask for a tip now.

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        11 months ago

        it promotes worker tax evasion

        this is the only argument I’ll hear in favor of tipping. People should cheat on their taxes until they pay as little as the wealthy.

          • 5am5ep1ol@lemmy.film
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            11 months ago

            I mean, I get where you’re coming from. But modern US does not spend our tax money justly or wisely. Infrastructure crumbling, social services abysmal, arts funding abysmal…we are constantly taking our great revenue and mishandling it while people across the country suffer. Our system works for the rich, while running on money from the poor. The entire system is broken, taxing the rich will not solve the problem.

        • BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf
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          11 months ago

          Tipping culture does not create better service, have you ever been to Italy? People tip because its the social norm, not because they like the service.

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          11 months ago

          It’s sad how much work has been put into convincing worker to buy this shit. It is not to their benefit. If you would make however much money after tips, you should still expect to make that same amount in a wage if we remove tips. It’s just a hurdle for everyone to jump through so restaurant owners aren’t held accountable to pay their staff. It’s also not uncommon for them to not make up the difference if the staff doesn’t make minimum wage after tips, which they are legally required to do.

          Tipping is a racket. If it were in the workers favor, why would their bosses be so in favor of it? If the person who you’re working for is ever in favor of something financial, you should pay attention because you should probably be on the other side. If it makes them more money then it’s likely costing you money

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              11 months ago

              I worked at Pizza Hut in the 90s, and waitresses were usually making $200+ in tips for a 6 hour shift. This was in a state where they were paid full minimum wage of $4.95.

              I delivered pizzas and made $5.50 plus an average of $30 in tips for a 6 hour shift.

        • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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          11 months ago

          All that said: Outside of higher end catered meals in Europe, service at even a halfway decent restaurant in the US is miles ahead. Mostly because the staff knows that is how they get their bonuses.

          If your idea of good service is having a waiter with faked cheer jump at you every five minutes loaded with a jug of ice cubes to check if “everything is great”, then sure, the US style is miles ahead.

          If you just want a professional to do his job as unobtrusively as possible, the European way is the one to pick.

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          I’m sorry but I have to take issue with “service is miles ahead”.

          American table service is weird. It’s an uncomfortable experience for anyone who isn’t used to it. You can call it a cultural difference but it genuinely gave us a feeling of revulsion - the fake friendliness, the platitudes, the hovering near the table, the constant refilling, the fucking survey mid-meal, the attentiveness barely concealing the determination to extract your money and shove you out and get another mark on the door.

          Perhaps because most of these things seem to primarily seek to recreate the experience of a slave owner and their chattel.

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            11 months ago

            I’m an American and this stuff has always bothered me. I do hate having my drink empty, but I don’t need a refill when I have half left either.

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          Service in Japan and South Korea is better than in American restaurants and you don’t have to bribe the staff to be nice to you. The price on the menu is usually cheaper too.

          Also, pooled tips are basically a slush fund for wages since the entire point of tipping is supposed to be to reward good service and if the tip isn’t going directly to the person who provides the service, what’s the point? Ditto for any tip on a service that hasn’t even been performed yet, such as delivery services.

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      11 months ago

      The thing is, America is culturally really influenctial. Here in Germany we have a wide variety of jobs that typically pay minimum wage. Some are service related, others aren’t. It’s roughly 20% of the workforce.

      But we listen to american podcasts, watch your movies, your series and so on.

      So waiters tend to get minimum wage + tax free tips, while cashiers just get minimum wage. Granted, tips are more like 10% here. I hate tips being an expectation.

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    11 months ago

    ELIF: How is this not illegal? That seriously looks like a 20-dollar bill… I might be missing something.

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      For the “bill” itself, we can’t see the other side, but there’s enough differences that you wouldn’t mistake it for real currency at more than a glance. Fake bills for movie/tv sets look far closer to real bills (basically with obviously fake serial numbers and “for movie use only” stamped on it.

      For leaving it as a tip, it’s not being used to satisfy a payment. While tipping is expected, it’s not required and there’s not an agreed upon amount between the parties. So they’re just leaving a scummy flyer behind. Not any different than the people that ‘tip’ with Chick Tracts. If they were to use it to try and pay the bill, it’d be illegal.

    • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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      11 months ago

      I think the Republican party stopped caring about the evangelicals back in 2010 when the Tea Party thing happened. By 2012 their candidate was a Mormon and then we all know what happened in 2016.

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      11 months ago

      Plenty fine. There’s a lot of them even claiming that Trump is literally the Second Coming, or a prophet thereof. I’ve even had one tell me that he and Pence (before they all turned against Pence) were the two prophets of the End Times in Revelations.

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        I’ve even had one tell me that he and Pence were the two prophets of the End Times in Revelations.

        In a way they are

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        11 months ago

        The funny part is that they supposedly believe in the Antichrist but don’t realize Trump is closer to that description than the Second Coming.

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      11 months ago

      Anyone hard rooting for any politician is a moron. All D and R marked politicians are lizards looking to suck your wallet dry and deprive you of free will. These ultra Trump people are are cringey as the baffoons that think Biden is a good president.

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        What’s so revolting and obnoxious about @STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world’s trolling is low wages and high tips are precisely in line with #Trump principles (and in fact right-wing conservatives in general) and contrary to the principles of the liberals who are repulsed by Trump & his repugnance.

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    11 months ago

    I’m actually ok with this becoming a trend. It’s going to piss off enough people that even less people might vote Trump this time.

  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    This almost pisses me off enough to invent time travel, go back in time, kill my grandfather, and destroy the universe.

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      11 months ago

      This almost pisses me off enough to invent time travel, go back in time, kill my grandfather, and destroy the universe, sleep with my grandmother, become the mighty one, travel into the future, save the universe

      FTFY

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      I’m pretty sure there is no legal requirement to tip. However, if wait staff end up below minimum wage after tips their employer is supposed to pay the difference, though this usually doesn’t happen and most people aren’t aware of it. Wage theft is the most common form of theft in the US, and this plays a part in it.

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    11 months ago

    I didn’t really get why someone would make a bill with just 2024 on it. Like, do they just really want to make sure that you know about the year 2024?

    Then I saw the small print.