I’m looking for a good notes taking app to replace The Bad Ones like Evernote.
I want to have the content available over multiple devices (iOS app if possible) and preferably also a web editor.
Any ideas?
I bounced around a bunch of different apps after leaving Evernote myself some 6-7 years ago. Evernote was cool, but started getting worse. I can only imagine how bad it is now. I also learned that migrating away from Evernote’s walled garden is a bit difficult.
I don’t have any recommendations for ones with a web editor. I specifically wanted a local app for my notes, which Evernote seemed less interested in and more interested in pushing their web app. After Evernote I’ve been using a folder of plain-old Markdown files, synced to my home server, and using various editors for those Markdown files. Things I’ve tried include VSCode, Typora, and QOwnNotes.
Today I use Obsidian and haven’t hopped around for the last 2 years. I love Obsidian and have basically no complaints about it. Again no web editing, but if you just want local files (that can sync across devices) then Obsidian is excellent.
Joplin works well for me.
Another vote for Joplin here, but I prefer to host Joplin server for synchronization because it’s much faster than NextCloud.
+1 for Joplin with Nextcloud / WebDAV sync.
Joplin with NextCloud for sychronization + pivn for having access from everywhere :')
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Joplin for notes, Floccus for Bookmarks.
Thanks for Floccus suggestions. It says it syncs over Nextcloud Bookmarks, does that mean you wouldn’t need a dedicated app except for Nextcloud?
I haven’t found a good replacement. I use a combination of syncthing (files), paperless-ngx (pdf), markdown notes (text, lists), memos (todos), radicale (caldav todos), wallabag (web note/archive), images folders and my mobile phone apps (photos/gallery, zettel notes, paperless-ngx app, syncthing).
I enjoyed Evernote back in the day, but yeah…
huge obsidian.md fan here. it doesn’t have a web editor, but since your notes really are just markdown files it’s easy to mix and match with other markdown editors. for quick notes i like to drop into markor on my phone rather than obsidian, since they’re compatible and obsidian takes longer to load due to my love of plugins
i use syncthing to get my vault onto all my devices on the fly, plus a git repo for longer-term archival. i believe syncthing doesn’t play so well on ios due to system limitations, however, so using the official “obsidian sync” service might be a better bet in your case?
I ditched Evernote and moved to Standard Notes. It’s everywhere for me, iOS, windows, Linux and MacOS and it has a web client which is consistent with all versions of the app. My only gripe is easy image embedding. But I’m living without it.
Another vote for Trilium.
A couple of years ago Roam Research was trending, I read some articles and reviews about it and I liked the concepts it introduced. I looked for a free, open source self-hosted cross-platform alternative to Roam and found Trilium.
Its native on Windows, Mac, and Linux, while it doesn’t have any Native Mobile apps, the webapp works on great on mobile and can be installed to your phone launcher as a PWA.
It does everything I want, and I use it a lot. A bunch of my colleagues have been recently moving from Evernote or Notable, over to Obsidian, and I understand Obsidian is the new hot thing, but I think I’ll stick with Trilium.
My advice would be to try out a bunch. Note taking is surprisingly nuanced and personal preferences play a major role. Try each one for a week or two, and see which best matches your workflow and your requirements.
I also useTrilium but I have to say that the mobile experience is pretty poor. You loose the ability to add labels and most of the desktop features are stripped away. If all you need is to simple read and write, then the mobile web app may suffice. There is also a bug where many android keyboards cause typed characters to duplicate (a ckeditor bug)
I’m still sticking with Trilium because the desktop app is super. I’m definitely looking forward to a mobile app at some point (its bound to be developed by someone!)
+1 for Trilium, been using it for about a year now and I like it over the other solutions I’ve tried: Joplin, Obsidian, and logseq.
Don’t forget about Trlium’s white board feature! I didn’t know it existed until recently - create a new “canvas” style note to get it started
Great point about this being such a personal preference thing. I was thinking that as I was reading through all these passionate replies.
What kinda notes are you looking to take? If you want something real simple but works across all devices, is super fast and with great search, try Simplenote. If you want something with more power, I’ll echo what others here have suggested and say Obsidian. Don’t do notion.
What’s wrong with notion?
My biggest reason for moving off Notion (and to Obsidian) was lack of offline availability. This has left me in a bind multiple times.
Basically this https://www.notion.so/product/ai. AI hype train, won’t be long til this is default (if it isn’t already) and they steal all your notes/writing to feed LLMs and monetize your work without you knowing.
Personally, I’m just using Simplenote. Just the other day there was this post.
I used Evernote, Simplenote and various other ones and settled for Clickup for now, unless it gets enshittificated, too.
It mainly markets as a productivity app with todo lists, but also has a great document and note management system builtin.
I don’t think this satisfies your use cases perfectly but an interesting solution for sure. I prefer note taking in vscode using the patricklee.vsnotes extension. Here’s a write up on it at c/vscode. You can commit your note changes to a git repo on github or other elsewhere, giving you access from many different places.
I have manual commands creating notes and symlinked notes dirs and a global gitignore for something similar but I namespace per repo which is much more convenient for me.
Well that’s interesting! But I don’t write see how that would work. Mind explaining a bit more? Perhaps s little demo with notes from two workspaces?
I currently use primarily Logseq with a little Obsidian because it’s just a really pleasant text editor and Zettlr for long form writing and research. The nice think about keeping it all Makrdown is that I can use any of them depending on what features/UI I need.
Logseq does have the web editor but it’s more of a demo (it’s literally called demo.logseq.com) but it gives you the full vanilla feature set as long as you connect a local directory. I use Logseq Sync just because I was paying to support the team anyway, and it’s worked very well so far. Just ran into an issue where my laptop with most of my notes broke and so I made a portable version of the app to put on a USB and work on a library computer and it ran and connected to my Logseq Sync remote graph surprisingly seamlessly.
If you already have Nextcloud their Notes app is easy to use and has a mobile app
I’ve used Outline for 2 years. It’s honestly really nice. Pretty simple to selfhost and you can set-up internal auth with something like Authelia.
However I recently moved to Obsidian.md because of the large community and add-ons available. I love it. For device synchronisation I use Syncthing and I can’t complain. It has no WebApp but it’s available on every platform
I love outline as much as the next guy, but calling it simple to selfhost is a bit of a stretch. It has lots of moving parts and not having an auth solution built-in makes it not suitable for the average user.
That said, it does beat other wiki solutions by a wide margin!