and avoiding link rot

Lemmy seems built to destroy information, rot links. Unlike Reddit has been for 15 years, when a person deletes their account Lemmy removes all posts and comments, creating a black hole.

Not only are the comments disappeared from the person who deleted their account, all the comments made by other users disappear on those posts and comments.

Right now, a single user just deleting one comment results in the entire branch of comment replies to just disappear.

Installing an instance was done pretty quickly… over 1000 new instances went online in June because of the Reddit API change. But once that instance goes offline, all the communities hosted there are orphaned and no cleanup code really exists to salvage any of it - because the whole system was built around deleting comments and posts - and deleting an instance is pretty much a purging of everything they ever created in the minds of the designers.

This isn’t shitpost material, this is reality of how the human mind works, and www.thisman.org that you linked is another example of the human brain works. This s the very meaning of ‘Demon-Haunted World’, where people compulsively flock and put their faith into someone without scrutinizing the actions the person or system is taking. People read a book and say they personally know Jesus… if you haven’t met such a person in your lifetime if you have lived in North America, I’d be surprised.

This isn’t shitpost material, this is the nightmare of reality that’s trending towards self-destruction. Since 2014 crowds have been flocking to icons and symbols of things that are objectively bad.

Ok, I’ve got it wrong, you said hundreds, this is a shitpost.

But lemmy.world should primarily communicate via lemmy imo…

I find the same attitude holds for developers who like to hang out in real-time Matrix chat and don’t seem to use Lemmy itself very much and things like code blocks ruining greater-than and less-than slip right into release without much concern.

I’ve found there is a culture within Lemmy developers and long-time operators to discuss in Discord or Matrix chat instead of “eating their own dogfood” and using Lemmy itself to openly discuss Lemmy technical and project issues. These chat services are legendary for keeping things away from search engines and newcomers getting up to speed. Lemmy itself isn’t nearly as search-engine friendly as Reddit was traditionally, it seems like feedback needs to be given as to how important it is to keep things about Lemmy in the eyes of those who actually use Lemmy…

Thoughts?

I haven’t tested with 0.18.3 to see if new features were added to front-end lemmy-ui, but based on my experience with earlier 0.18 releases… the “Sign Up” page of Lemmy needs to have a custom message added for each instance basically introducing the instance from the admins. The experience is pretty bad… on my instance I have registration closed and lemmy-ui still just presents “Sign Up” links and even the form. I think it’s pretty important to get this in the back-end now so that the evolving independent front-ends all support the custom message shown above/below the Sign Up form…

Seems like something that shouldn’t take a lot of coding to get added (admin screen has place to create custom messages like “Legal”) that would be a good lemmy network-wide focus on the newcomer experience.

lemmy.ml is now getting some lemmy.world content

yha, it said “effectively defedarated” - anyway, I edited out the words entirely so there isn’t any more confusion.

example?

EDIT: Ok, I see a lemmy.ml created a post: https://lemmy.world/post/2463337
So far, I can’t find any new content on lemmy.ml from .world

I had to look it up… British

Although these days I’m finding I don’t recall as much as I used to, I might have known about it in my past.

You can use markdown codes in titles. Bold, italic, and in my case strikethrough. Two tildes before and after the text.

It is back up

Down, “Server error” message for past 20 minutes at least

https://sh.itjust.works/ is returning “Server error” on all pages, not sure how long that has been going on.
apparently over 45 minutes so far: https://lemmy.world/post/1604919

Beehaw.org was down for over 30 minutes, came back for 15 minutes, now down again another 30 minutes.

lemmy.ml is back online!

6 hours down for lemmy.ml is really going to have a lot of items queued on lemmy.world, beehaw, and other popular servers to delivery to lemmy.ml - causing resources to climb on all those servers.

Lemmy.world is now responding some at least, and some of the comments from remote servers came into this posting just now.

Personally, I don’t think the Lemmy numbers are that big. There are some instances running bots of feeds, a lot of memes. A lot of discussion about Lemmy and other federated services. I do not really consider the volume of posts/comments about everyday topics to be that high.

Yes, I installed a Lemmy server my own self, there is no screening, approval, or even a “terms of use” on the signup page. This is the “wild west” of social media. And some of the claims on the GitHub project page such as “full delete” are an overreach, as it has no footnote that federated servers do not have to comply with the delete of your replicated votes/comments/posts/profile

the comment_like database table in Lemmy also has a timestamp on it, “published” field, that discloses what time you voted. This reveals patterns of your Lemmy usage to other federated servers.