it is a job not an investment

where did I say that

Something can be both an investment and a job. If you found a startup, for instance. I just don’t get the meaningless arguments about how maintaining a property isn’t a job. If it requires you to work, then it’s a job.

Why are we gatekeeping the word job? all a job is “a task or piece of work, especially one that is paid” that seems to fit the definition of a homeowner renting out their property.

It is absolutely a job if you personally handle upkeep. Managing something is still a job. Although if you outsource every aspect of it I would consider it more an investment.

I said assuming no health risk. Sorry bud, I just think killing babies actually isn’t a cool thing. I’m ok for doing it in desperate situations but killing a baby should not be a form of birth control.

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You need to face the fact that you don’t believe women should have rights

This is what you said to me fyi

Ripping the child out of your womb is killing the baby by your own action. Letting someone else die due to inaction is quite different, and I think you know that.

It’s very strange to me how you interpret “Hey I don’t think killing babies in the womb is cool” into “you just hate woman and want them in the kitchen”. Very strange, I can tell you use a bit too overexposed to the politics of everything. It’s not crazy to think that some people might think killing a child, even if its unborn, is wrong.

I’m not trying to convince you of anything. I just think that killing a baby still in the womb is killing a human being. I do consider it murder from a personal ethics point of view, obviously under the law it is not.

maybe you should learn to read instead of shooting off questions that hold no relation to what we are talking about

That is much different than “pregnancy being inherently a life threatening condition”

What definition are you going by? Definition is: “a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.” none of that excludes those who are yet to be born.

Of course. But in almost all instances the person being killed did something to deserve it. A child in the womb did nothing to deserve it.

Considering birth is a direct consequence of having sex, yes I would say a woman should be aware that they can get pregnant. You don’t have to have sex, and you don’t get to kill a baby because you were irresponsible.

If you want to kill a child you should have justification for it other than “it doesn’t feel right”

I’m glad you are admitting it. Many people try to hide this fact. I wonder why

What if the baby is not threatening the life of the mother at all? How is it okay to kill in self defense in that instance?

At least you admit you are killing a human. That’s nice that you have gotten that far.

Birth is the quintessential start of life.

This is an almost religious claim with no empirical evidence backing it.

But we both know you’re never going to accept that because you want to subjugate women and deny them happiness, and that’s all this is really about.

You have really been sold a narrative haven’t you. I just think killing babies because you don’t want them is bad. That’s pretty much the extent of it.

Yes. Someone with intense mental issues cannot live without the body of another human serving them. That doesn’t mean you are allowed to intentionally murder them. There are ways for babies to survive outside the womb.