• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      Wasn’t mein kampf the only book he"s read?

      I remember at some point it came out he kept it on his bedside table.

      Hitler wanted to exterminate anyone that was different, and he took his inspiration from how America was treating Black/Native populations but also people with disabilities and LGBTQ.

      There’s always a huge focus on the victims who were Jewish, but they were only like 50% of the Holocaust victims. Still a majority of victims but just barely.

      Post-nazi society wouldn’t tolerate them going after people for being Jewish so they focused on the other groups. They just focus on whatever group of “others” is the least protected that’s who they prioritize as victims.

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        Tried to read Mein Kampf years ago. The writing was such a clusterfuck I couldn’t go on. I don’t mean I disagreed, I mean I couldn’t make out what he was saying, at all.

        Ever read the transcript of a Trump speech? Not even one of the crazy ones people paste on the internet, just an everyday speech. That’s what reading Hitler’s babbling was like.

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        It was a book of Hitler’s speeches, but I don’t think he’s actually read even that.

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      Aktion T4 was a campaign of mass murder against disabled people by involuntary euthanasia in Nazi Germany. The term was first used in post-war trials against doctors who had been involved in the killings.[4] The name T4 is an abbreviation of Tiergartenstraße 4, a street address of the Chancellery department set up in early 1940, in the Berlin borough of Tiergarten, which recruited and paid personnel associated with Aktion T4.[5][b] Certain German physicians were authorised to select patients “deemed incurably sick, after most critical medical examination” and then administer to them a “mercy death” (Gnadentod).[7] In October 1939, Adolf Hitler signed a “euthanasia note”, backdated to 1 September 1939, which authorised his physician Karl Brandt and Reichsleiter Philipp Bouhler to begin the killing.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4

      I hate the use of “euthanasia” and “mercy death”. This was genocide, perpetrated by nazi germany and nazi doctors. 300’000 disabled people murdered by doctors and SS.

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        Thanks for the summary, hadnt really heard of the specifics of this.

        I think genocide isnt really the right term here, but i agree with the sentiment that it should be treated as such.

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          Yep. It’s crazy to me the term used by the nazis “involuntary euthanasia” is the same that is used by wikipedia.

          Its like calling “rape”, “involuntary lovemaking”.

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        I think “genocide” is appropriate here - it’s a group of people, selected because of a shared trait that were mass murdered.

        The first sentence I think covers it: “A campaign of mass murder” states what it actually was, and “by involuntary euthanasia in Nazi Germany” states what the Nazis claimed it was.

        To the Right, only the in-group should be alive at all. Everyone not in the in-group is a waste of resources. It’s important that we understand this, as it’s the same thing now as it was in the 1930s and 1940s. To them, “mercy killing” meant merciful to the Nazis and care takers. It meant that it removed the burden on them of the people they didn’t desire.

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      I doubt Trump could philosophically defend this as well, so Adolf goddamned Hitler somehow comes out as more intellectually honest, at least.

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        Oh, Hitler wasn’t dumb, just evil to the core. Trump is dumb as the left foot boot AND evil to the core.

        Edit: I guess I was wrong

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          The guy that fought 2 fronts when they were completely unprepared for the coldest winter on record? He was dumb.

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            It’s a misunderstanding he was in anyway intelligent. Most of his speeches were charismatic rambling attempting to anger and hype the common person (sound familiar?)

            He made many tactical blunders after dismissing the advice from experts, or by taking direct command over experienced officers. He thought he knew what he was doing. To not take control and to admit someone else was right would ruin his image.

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            Propaganda, “charisma,” and absolutely no filter, but mostly propaganda…

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          Nope. In the intellectual circles of Germany Hitler was considered a rambling idiot. A lot of his supporters thought they could control him because of this, and prevent him from doing anything too stupid. They were wrong of course, because weaponized stupidity is very dangerous.

          Many times he didn’t like the way things were getting done, and against the suggestions of his advisors, would take control and order things that had pretty bad consequences.

          This is evident in the actual way the allies won the war. The Axis was starved of fuel.

          Hitler famously demanded that his armor battalions were the key to the success of Germany. Unfortunately for him, the routing of funds away from air power to armor led the allies to prove that a single bomber could be far more devastating than several tanks.

          He sent orders to betray the Soviet Union at the wrong time. The Soviet Union had heavy losses, sure, but now they had a war on two fronts. He was absolutely certain that the Nazi War Machine was unstoppable, and he would be the one to guide it… Right into the allies hands.

          World War II was complex, but an actual competent individual wouldnt have made so many mistakes for the sake of doing things his way.

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      I would pay Kamala 100 a piece every time she just says that in a rebuttal at a debate.

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        That would be hilarious if someone prepared a bunch of little clips of things Hitler said that Trump also says very similar things to, and then anytime he says one, just respond by playing a clip of Hitler saying basically the same thing, and giving a ‘Do I need to say more?’ look.