His intervention comes as the presidents of Brazil, Mexico and Colombia all called on Venezuela to release the full details of last Sunday’s election.

It has also attracted global criticism, with many governments around the world demanding the Venezuelan government release proof of the result.

The result has been recognised by Venezuelan allies China, Russia and Iran.

But, the US, European Union and other G7 countries have called on Mr Maduro’s government to release detailed voting data.

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    I’ve read a few articles. They’re all like, “we have sooooo much evidence that the election is rigged! Just so much!! But it goes to another school, so just trust me bro.”

    I’m very happy to be proven wrong, if you have anything compelling to share, please do.

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        Exactly. The opposition keeps saying they have proof but not revealing it. It’s all very Trumpian. He said they have proof the election was fixed, too. I’m starting not to believe the US in this one.

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          I mean kinda me too…what I’m really afraid is that is foreshadowing November here

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            Oh damn, now you have me worried, too lol. I 100% bet Trump his team and their supporters will look to this election for lessons.

            To be clear, I don’t think Maduro is a good guy at all, and he seems to be handling this terribly. But that only makes Venezuela easier to do this with, especially considering US interests in the region. (Insert Elon Musk’s “we can coup whoever we want” quote here.) Hopefully it all becomes clearer after the deadline Mexico, Brazil, and Colombia gave them to release full data and figure this out. Those 3 countries seem to be handling this the best by reaching out to both parties and handling this in a slow, calm manner. I’m trying to keep an open mind like them until then.

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        This is a story about it, I’d love to see the scans, where are they?

        Edit: Never mind, another user shared the link.

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          Not everyone can have every expertise. You can dismiss a tally sheet written in crayon, but would you know an authentic one from a forgery? Some things have to be left to experts, like rocket scientists, nuclear engineers, and oncologists.

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            That is totally irrelevant. I specifically asked for the evidence, not for some journalist’s report on what some source said about how they got the evidence.

            If you asked me for proof that Elon Musk tweeted something, I’d link you the tweet, not a report about how people are reacting to Elon’s tweet.

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      You can download the voter sheets that the opposition is presenting and investigate it yourself. Thankfully the AP already has (I trust them enough for this) and it indicates the government of Venezuela is lying

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        I know we’re not supposed to accuse others of being disingenuous actors on behalf of a criminal state, but it’s getting hard to believe this many supposedly well read people are so ignorant of what happened in Venezuela.

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          People are quite rightly skeptical of mass media narratives. If presented with actual evidence you’ll find that people are willing to believe things. 99% of the coverage of the election in Venezuela has been spin from their political enemies.

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      They don’t. And they don’t need to! Being rude at people who disagree with the US State departments official position (which is not propaganda) is good enough, because propaganda = opinions that are not in line with the US state dept.

      They believe that “fact” so powerfully that theyll get angry at you and insult you. Other facts become unnecessary if the person saying them is untrustworthy. Uncomfortable truths, any thoughts about the US’s many, many efforts to control the global south may be terminated along with the messenger.

      Besides people use Ad hominem because it’s just so easy

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        Do you read what you have written and think, “yeah, that was a reasonable take?”

        People are literally pointing this person toward the information they claim doesn’t exist. A few people were abrasive about it bc it comes up under an easy search. But they’ve ignored it, double down, and been dismissive.

        Say what you want about the hive mind of Lemmy but be honest about this interaction.

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          Nobody pointed me towards anything until now and I literally immediately said “thank you” and amended my comment.

          It literally does not come up after an easy search. Someone had to directly link me to a strange website that I’ve never heard of before so I could see the proof.

          And you’re scolding people for being dishonest? lol

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        There’s no need to act like an asshole. I asked for proof, nothing more. Despite the dozens of people who downvoted me, only one was able to provide it, and it doesn’t show up on a Google search (due to the amount of blog spam about the topic, I suppose)

        I haven’t seen that proof shared anywhere else. Have you? If so, where?