I’m not necessarily fully agreeing with OP’s thesis that MBFC is a pro-Zionist project, but something is very much amiss if UNWatch is considered to be a “highly credible” source.
I myself debunked a highly flawed and biased article from UNWatch that was posted to News@Lemmy.world* last month. The post was removed by the moderator (@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world) after being determined as disinformation. (I can’t link to it, since it has been removed, but if you want to see the details of my critique, check out this screenshot of my comment)
Having seen that first hand, I would absolutely say that MBFC’s credibility rating system is, at the very least, questionable.
And, for future reference to others, if you flag such posts and also make a comment in the post for why that source is unreliable, it saves us a lot of time trying to figure out whether or not that is true (although the bot is a help despite it’s flaws).
Plus, even reliable sources can be wrong. It’s a lot easier for us to evaluate whether a post is misinformation if we’re told why the person reporting it believes it to be.
Edit: Also, although I don’t remember this, you must have posted it to World News because I’m not a News moderator.
Not really a big deal, I just didn’t want people to think I’m a mod where I’m not.
Edit: Also, I did not code the bot and I really didn’t have much input in it. The only reason I’m not wholly against it is that there really aren’t any other options without each source being evaluated individually. I agree there is a Zionism issue, but I also think that isn’t really a factor if it is a story about, for example, the famine in Sudan. If someone has a better site for rating media bias, please pass it along and I will let the person behind the bot know.
The entire point was i half expected you to drop that in the post. I’m surprised that wasn’t clear but there now it is. It’s an anti-Semitic, usually right wing dog whistle. That’s why I made the comment. It felt like you wanted to say it. It was admittedly tongue in cheek and in poor taste to throw that at you and for that I will apologize.
The real problem is that for many years israel has tried to conflate Zionism and Judaism so there is an instinctive reaction for people to see criticism of israel as antisemitic.
However israeli media lobbies such as the ADL, UnWatch, NGO-Watch etc are very real. Just like how AIPAC is very real. They are not hiding they are Zionist lobby organisations either.
Just checked what the MBFC had to say about the ADL by the way and surprise surprise
Unfortunately I see “Zionist“ used by the right wing bigots all the time too so frankly when people use it it’s not always clear to me what they are driving at and what their real intentions are. I should’ve asked you or parsed what you wrote more carefully before going after you like that. That’s on me
Edit: I can recognize when I’ve jumped the gun. Apologies OP. I don’t fully agree but I also can’t say I have enough to say this is wrong either.
I’m not necessarily fully agreeing with OP’s thesis that MBFC is a pro-Zionist project, but something is very much amiss if UNWatch is considered to be a “highly credible” source.
I myself debunked a highly flawed and biased article from UNWatch that was posted to News@Lemmy.world* last month. The post was removed by the moderator (@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world) after being determined as disinformation. (I can’t link to it, since it has been removed, but if you want to see the details of my critique, check out this screenshot of my comment)
Having seen that first hand, I would absolutely say that MBFC’s credibility rating system is, at the very least, questionable.
I don’t take any issue with critiquing how MBFC does their ratings. But this post is a lot more than that
Yeah this post provides direct evidence that MBFC rates Zionist propaganda as credible and that’s very inconvenient for your narrative.
And, for future reference to others, if you flag such posts and also make a comment in the post for why that source is unreliable, it saves us a lot of time trying to figure out whether or not that is true (although the bot is a help despite it’s flaws).
Plus, even reliable sources can be wrong. It’s a lot easier for us to evaluate whether a post is misinformation if we’re told why the person reporting it believes it to be.
Edit: Also, although I don’t remember this, you must have posted it to World News because I’m not a News moderator.
Yup, sorry you’re right - it was World News, not News.
Not really a big deal, I just didn’t want people to think I’m a mod where I’m not.
Edit: Also, I did not code the bot and I really didn’t have much input in it. The only reason I’m not wholly against it is that there really aren’t any other options without each source being evaluated individually. I agree there is a Zionism issue, but I also think that isn’t really a factor if it is a story about, for example, the famine in Sudan. If someone has a better site for rating media bias, please pass it along and I will let the person behind the bot know.
You have not read my post at all because this is directly disproven with a mountain of evidence such as the falsed UNRWA = Hamas claims
. The MBFC rating rates sites which spout blatant propaganda as ‘factually credible’ despite them making outrageous claims.
Furthermore your comment in insanely anti-semitic and tries to conflate Judaism and Zionism in the first line so your agenda is obvious.
Anti-Semitic? Are you fucking joking?
If you’re not going to be serious then I’m not going to engage you further.
Do explain what you meant by <<them>>
The entire point was i half expected you to drop that in the post. I’m surprised that wasn’t clear but there now it is. It’s an anti-Semitic, usually right wing dog whistle. That’s why I made the comment. It felt like you wanted to say it. It was admittedly tongue in cheek and in poor taste to throw that at you and for that I will apologize.
No problem.
The real problem is that for many years israel has tried to conflate Zionism and Judaism so there is an instinctive reaction for people to see criticism of israel as antisemitic.
However israeli media lobbies such as the ADL, UnWatch, NGO-Watch etc are very real. Just like how AIPAC is very real. They are not hiding they are Zionist lobby organisations either.
Just checked what the MBFC had to say about the ADL by the way and surprise surprise
Unfortunately I see “Zionist“ used by the right wing bigots all the time too so frankly when people use it it’s not always clear to me what they are driving at and what their real intentions are. I should’ve asked you or parsed what you wrote more carefully before going after you like that. That’s on me
Aite I’ll eat crow and admit I’ve jumped the gun. I’ve edited my original comment.
Calling out Zionism is not antisemitism.
Stop trying to conflate the two.