• Admiral Patrick@dubvee.org
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    4 months ago

    I totally get where they’re coming from with that shutdown announcement. I’ve had to “talk myself off a ledge” a few times to not go the same route and shut mine down. Ended up making some server policy changes that helped, but there’s eventually going to be something else later.

    If we keep treating the Fediverse as just a scrappy, amateur effort, it will never reach its full potential and it will be forever just a niche thing.

    What suggestions do you have to change the way we’re treating/running it currently?

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      4 months ago

      What suggestions do you have to change the way we’re treating/running it currently?

      Plain and simple, instances should require some form of contribution from all members. Let’s stop pretending that the people here can not pay a dollar or two per month.

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        4 months ago

        I think a dollar or two per year would suffice if all users paid it.

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          4 months ago

          A dollar per year won’t even cover the storage bills, much less the labor of admins and moderators.

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            4 months ago

            Per user? There are instances running on like $10/mo virtual servers with maybe the same amount spent on storage.

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              4 months ago

              How many users are on these instances?

              (And you are still ignoring the cost of labor.)

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            3 months ago

            The thought was that it’d be closer to that, than the 12 times larger suggestion.

            And yeah, I was definitely only taking hosting costs into account, because every instance is maintained by volunteers. I was also only thinking about large instances that benefit from economies scale and smarter management.

            I took a quick glance at that thread, will have a more thorough pass later.

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            4 months ago

            If you value the admin/mod costs at $0

            Yeah, and developers. Apparently, they all think development of Lemmy, alternative frontends, supporting tools, client libraries and everything that enables the ecosystem falls out of the sky.

            That thread is ridiculous. It’s downright offensive to everyone working in free software and shows how little they are valued.