What do you think, ChatGPT? If it can create almost perfect summaries with a prompt; why wouldn’t it work in reverse? AI built into Windows could flag potentially subversives thoughts typed into Notepad or Word, as well as flag “problematic” clicks and compare it to previously profiled behavior. AI built into your GPU could build an behavioral profile based on your interactions with your hentai Sonic the Hedgehog game.

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    18 days ago

    Have a few friends over and have them all sit around a table. Have everyone place their smartphones on the table (turned on, of course), and proceed to discuss something like the merits of drills from Harbor Freight versus Ryobi, Milwaukee and DeWalt. Ideally with one person speaking at a time. Wait about a week and ask your friends if any of them noticed an uptick in ads for drills or powertools in general.

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      Hasn’t this been proven to be false? People have monitored the network traffic and phones don’t listen like this; it’s just not practical.

      Instead, they keep track of your browsing, location, contacts, etc and build a profile well enough they don’t need to listen to you.

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          It’d be very easy to take some LLM text about some product, run it through a text to speech converter then quietly expose the phone to it (like put a earbud up to the mic). This way you could easily create a blind or a double blind test, you don’t know what product that this set up has been rambling about into the phone for the past twelve hours and you have to pick it out from the ads you’re served.

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        You don’t need to transmit the recording. Maybe not even a transcript. Just the keywords.

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        It’ll vary by the software you have, and the phone you have. Many companies have been caught capturing microphone recordings such as Google, Meta and Amazon over the years to name a few.

        It also depends on the appliances you own, and how you have them configured. TVs, Alexa, hell we even have refrigerators that have live mics on them now.

        I have worked for tech my whole life, this is table stakes for these organizations, ethics be damned.

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          My understanding is the mics aren’t “live” until the activation phrase is said, then they record and send that data for processing. If someone has proven otherwise I’d love to see their methods.

          The scary thing isn’t that they’re listening, it’s that they collect so much other data that they don’t have to.

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              I’m sure you’ll find some good explanations online, but there’s an “activation” circuit on the device “listening” that then engages the rest of the system when it’s triggered. So there’s no recording or sending of data until the activation phrase has been said, and the activation phrase detection is done locally on the device.

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                This makes sense for devices like Google home where there is only one activation phrase but I don’t understand how an IC could exist that can respond to custom activation phrases.

                Also are you saying that cellphones have this circuit too? I’m pretty darn sure that’s all software based.

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            the “it doesnt record you until the software decides so” argument is such a bullshit. does not mke any difference. it listens when it wants, and you cant even verify it

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      Ads? You mean those stickers on a bus?

      Seriously though, use DNS, VPN and other means to block ads and telemetry, so thoughts like that don’t even occur to you.

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        VPN doesn’t necessarily block telemetry, and some providers, like NordVPN, have tons of telemetry in their clients alone. Even if they come with “blocking telemetry” in their VPN, I guess they want to be the only one hoarding your data.

        Use tracker blockers/firewalls, TrackerControl is a good open source app on Android for this, a PiHole can block a lot of tracking traffic as well.

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      I saw this in minutes after a conversation in a car with 2 people, 2 phones.

      And it was for a subject which was waaaaay out in left field for us both, something neither of us had ever even thought about before.