He keeps racking the slide because the recoil spring is too heavy and the suppressor is too heavy in the front of the barrel to allow for tilting of the barrel during cycling of rounds. So he has to manually chamber a round each shot. All non fixed barrels have this issue as far as handguns go. A simple correct recoil spring swap maybe trial and error for poundage and this would have cycled normally.
As an alternative he might have been going for maximum sound suppression. Locked breach suppressed guns are much quieter than automatic cycling. There are a lot of YouTube videos about shooting quiet. Once you’re shooting subsonic 10mm + rounds the loudest part is the escaping gas from the automatic cycling.
Not a bad take but doubtful. He’s in NYC people are everywhere as it is probably the most surveiled state in the US. Maybe DC. While I agree with the quietness its not ideal to have to do that. He got hit in the back and the calf. Wildly different parts of the body. A fully functioning tool when you need it is better than a quieter slow tool that is inaccurate and you have to fumble with each use.
Use the right recoil springs and test before hand and change ammo and springs if need be. If your in a pinch changing ammo type from quieter subsonic to +P could help cycle but won’t be as quiet as there’s more powder and recoil. Use the right tool for the job and learn. Don’t half ass your life sentence. If not use a revolver and be done.
If you rewatch the video it looks like he expects to need to manually rack the slide. He’s not phased at all.
I’m not saying going for a locked slide is the best approach. I’m just saying that it looks like he expected it. I don’t think anyone who is clever enough to evade being arrested at the time of the incident is dumb enough to not practice before hand. Particularly in the most surveilled state in the U.S.
He might have decided quietness is more important than follow-up speed when planning a close encounter assassination.
I figured it was due to the spring. Long time ago I knew a guy who had a HK 45 with a suppresser. He had two additional springs. One for regular rounds with the suppresser attached and one for rounds made with less powder. Those were lower velocity and nearly silent.
He may have been firing sub-sonic rounds in conjunction with the silencer/suppressor. Purely anecdotally but I’ve heard that that combination “can” lead to jams and the need for manual reracking.
Yeah, single action is also a possibility but I was just following on from the previous suppressor / silencer comments and trying to add to that. Sub-sonic and silencer ( for a USian private citizen) is such a unique (and illegal?) combination that I’d be reasonably surprised if that was the case - but it is possible. That’s all I wanted to point out.
Do you have more than one type of squirrel? In the UK you can bag as many invasive greys as you want (.22, twelve foot pounds of air - lol) but don’t ever hit a native red. The greys brought a virus (?) that has decimated our native reds.
TLDR: squirrel racism is promoted in the UK.
Edit: 12 ft/lbs is the legal limit for air rifles (easy to buy and operate) but it’s not unheard of for people to - illegally - up that. The only thing worse than missing vermin is injuring vermin.
We do, in Ontario we have grey squirrels and red squirrels, and same thing you can take I think 5-6 a day during the fall season, but no touchy the loud ass tiny redheaded Dingus that is blowing out your deer stand…
Also we have black Grey squirrels here, so I have been known to say to a red squirrel “hey friend. Don’t worry, shut up I’m not after you, but if you have any black friends…”
That’s a brilliant reply. Thank you. I’m really tickled by the “Got any black friends?” comment. Sentences to never take out of context and all that… I’m gonna do a little research now as I’ve seen one or two brown (?) squirrels which I always assumed were red/grey cross breeds. I take no pleasure in killing animals but it has to be done… (to anybody who might disagree with that last bit - sadly it’s a fact. It’s not an opinion. Without human intervention many species would cease to exist. We made a mess and now we’re trying to clean it up.)
Also to consider, this is New York, a state very hostile to suppressors (they are illegal). Knowing nothing about the man’s origins, he could have been a New York native, doing the best he could with what training he could get without raising red flags.
He keeps racking the slide because the recoil spring is too heavy and the suppressor is too heavy in the front of the barrel to allow for tilting of the barrel during cycling of rounds. So he has to manually chamber a round each shot. All non fixed barrels have this issue as far as handguns go. A simple correct recoil spring swap maybe trial and error for poundage and this would have cycled normally.
Good advise for the next guy!
As an alternative he might have been going for maximum sound suppression. Locked breach suppressed guns are much quieter than automatic cycling. There are a lot of YouTube videos about shooting quiet. Once you’re shooting subsonic 10mm + rounds the loudest part is the escaping gas from the automatic cycling.
Not a bad take but doubtful. He’s in NYC people are everywhere as it is probably the most surveiled state in the US. Maybe DC. While I agree with the quietness its not ideal to have to do that. He got hit in the back and the calf. Wildly different parts of the body. A fully functioning tool when you need it is better than a quieter slow tool that is inaccurate and you have to fumble with each use.
Use the right recoil springs and test before hand and change ammo and springs if need be. If your in a pinch changing ammo type from quieter subsonic to +P could help cycle but won’t be as quiet as there’s more powder and recoil. Use the right tool for the job and learn. Don’t half ass your life sentence. If not use a revolver and be done.
If you rewatch the video it looks like he expects to need to manually rack the slide. He’s not phased at all.
I’m not saying going for a locked slide is the best approach. I’m just saying that it looks like he expected it. I don’t think anyone who is clever enough to evade being arrested at the time of the incident is dumb enough to not practice before hand. Particularly in the most surveilled state in the U.S.
He might have decided quietness is more important than follow-up speed when planning a close encounter assassination.
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This reads like a tarkov player offering their professional hitman advice. The guy got the job done lol
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I figured it was due to the spring. Long time ago I knew a guy who had a HK 45 with a suppresser. He had two additional springs. One for regular rounds with the suppresser attached and one for rounds made with less powder. Those were lower velocity and nearly silent.
Figured it was the suppressor, didn’t know why. You would think he would have tested a bit.
He may have been firing sub-sonic rounds in conjunction with the silencer/suppressor. Purely anecdotally but I’ve heard that that combination “can” lead to jams and the need for manual reracking.
It’s not really a jam if you’re just clearing the chamber, just means it’s a single action semi auto 😂
Yeah, single action is also a possibility but I was just following on from the previous suppressor / silencer comments and trying to add to that. Sub-sonic and silencer ( for a USian private citizen) is such a unique (and illegal?) combination that I’d be reasonably surprised if that was the case - but it is possible. That’s all I wanted to point out.
Man my dad’s old squirrel gun (.22 semi) doesn’t cycle subsonics, and it doesn’t have a silencer, so that absolutely tracks.
Do you have more than one type of squirrel? In the UK you can bag as many invasive greys as you want (.22, twelve foot pounds of air - lol) but don’t ever hit a native red. The greys brought a virus (?) that has decimated our native reds.
TLDR: squirrel racism is promoted in the UK.
Edit: 12 ft/lbs is the legal limit for air rifles (easy to buy and operate) but it’s not unheard of for people to - illegally - up that. The only thing worse than missing vermin is injuring vermin.
We do, in Ontario we have grey squirrels and red squirrels, and same thing you can take I think 5-6 a day during the fall season, but no touchy the loud ass tiny redheaded Dingus that is blowing out your deer stand…
Also we have black Grey squirrels here, so I have been known to say to a red squirrel “hey friend. Don’t worry, shut up I’m not after you, but if you have any black friends…”
Then I die inside.
That’s a brilliant reply. Thank you. I’m really tickled by the “Got any black friends?” comment. Sentences to never take out of context and all that… I’m gonna do a little research now as I’ve seen one or two brown (?) squirrels which I always assumed were red/grey cross breeds. I take no pleasure in killing animals but it has to be done… (to anybody who might disagree with that last bit - sadly it’s a fact. It’s not an opinion. Without human intervention many species would cease to exist. We made a mess and now we’re trying to clean it up.)
Also to consider, this is New York, a state very hostile to suppressors (they are illegal). Knowing nothing about the man’s origins, he could have been a New York native, doing the best he could with what training he could get without raising red flags.