• imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
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    18 days ago

    I’m not being intentionally obtuse. I’m trying to open your eyes to the fact that there is no list that can be drawn up. It’s an impossible task to separate human beings from the conditions of their environment. The system is inherently flawed, it doesn’t matter who becomes the CEO, they are all incentivized to follow the same playbook.

    What you suggest has been tried countless times in the past. When you remove the people occupying positions of power, others just take their place. You’re ultimately advocating removing individual human beings, when you should be advocating changing the system entirely. Instead of trying to overthrow and take over the system that exists, you should be trying to escape the system and build something better.

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      18 days ago

      when you should be advocating changing the system entirely.

      Last 40 years have clearly showed this won’t work.

      Boomers sold us out and when you ask them about it they indignant. When they keep voting against you… what are you supposed to do here?

      Let’s take more dick until they die and their crotch fruit gets the power and keeps fucking us 🤡

      If we gonna live a shiti life, at least make the elites live in fear lol

      Corporate executives are the modern camp guards, why are surprised camp residents are gloating?

      bUT HaVE U tHoUGhT AbOuT BIegGeR pICturE?!

      tell that to people who suffered when United"health" deined their claim, bootlicker.

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        18 days ago

        I just feel bad for everyone because you’re too stupid to see that you’re only hurting yourselves with this childish exaltation of violence. I can clearly see that you people are drowning and it pains me, but you’re lashing out wildly in such a way that it makes it dangerous for someone to try to save you.

        What’s even more distressing is that you aren’t alone out there. There are also children drowning out there right beside you, but you’re making it too difficult to provide any assistance because of your wild flailing. Long after we are dead, the inability of our generation to react maturely and productively to the reality of modern society will continue to haunt our descendants.

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      18 days ago

      I think we’ve already established that the list you made was a pretty good one so the suggestion that a list of those most responsible can’t be made is pretty odd to me.

      Let’s say I agree with you that violence is never the answer, what’s your alternate suggestion? Your thinking seems to be that oppressed people need to reason with their oppressors but what happens when they don’t listen? How long are people supposed to suffer before alternate methods are morally justified? What sort of escalation path exists within your moral framework? It seems to me that your reasoning ends with “just wait longer and hope justice prevails” but at some point that becomes untenable.

      Again, that may or may not be what’s going on here but clearly some people think it is so the discussion is worth having.

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        I think we’ve already established that the list you made was a pretty good one so the suggestion that a list of those most responsible can’t be made is pretty odd to me.

        No we haven’t. On what grounds are you taking doctors and nurses off the list? They’re the ones with medical training, if anything they’re the ones with the ultimate power over who gets medical help and who doesn’t. They choose to sell their services to the highest bidder. But they hold no responsibility? Absurd.

        The same is true for voters, or any other group of people. Probably the only groups that could even dream of limited liability would be religious cults/fundamentalists like the Amish, because they are at least making a good faith attempt to avoid participating in society any more than necessary. Or remote uncontacted tribes I suppose.

        Let’s say I agree with you that violence is never the answer, what’s your alternate suggestion?

        Dude wtf, I never said that. I literally already addressed this in my original reply to you, like an hour ago?

        I don’t have any aversion to physical violence, if it is directed towards a rational goal with defined objectives and limits to its usage. This is an example of the opposite, an arbitrary and chaotic usage of violence that only serves to exacerbate social dysfunction.

        I can only waste so much of my time going in circles, I’m out.

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      18 days ago

      Lol and how do you expect to overthrow and take over this system if not by violence? By magic?