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minus-squareRhynoplaz@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up26arrow-down1·11 days agoNot at all. Demanding a pronoun is like demanding that someone call you by your name. Demanding a burka is like demanding someone else respond to whatever pronoun YOU want to call them. One is demanding that people refer to you the way you want to be referred. The other is forcing something into someone else.
minus-squareExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up8·edit-211 days agoI think OP meant you using the wrong pronoun when talking to someone who would rather you didn’t is akin to imprisoning that someone in a burka. Which clearly is something someone in the first world without too many problems in life would say.
minus-squareRhynoplaz@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up4·11 days agoOh, maybe I misunderstood. If that’s the case, I guess that’s at least a more accurate comparison than what I thought they meant. I thought they meant that someone asking them to use a preferred pronoun was like forcing them to wear a burka.
minus-squareroofuskit@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·11 days agoNope, OP said that making someone use a pronoun is akin to demanding a burka
minus-squareExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up2·11 days agoWell, either way, it’s not really worth thinking about for more than 10 seconds, because quite frankly the parallel is pretty fucking dumb.
minus-squareOnno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radiolinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down2·11 days agoThat does assume that the person wearing the burka is doing so because they are forced to. This is not universally true and thus the comparison you make is also not true. Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-24/why-do-muslim-women-wear-a-burka-niqab-or-hijab/5761510
minus-squareRhynoplaz@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up6arrow-down1·11 days agoThe term “demanding” led me to that assumption. If someone wants to wear one, that’s fine, and irrelevant to this conversation. I was referring to people who are forced to wear one despite their wishes.
Not at all.
Demanding a pronoun is like demanding that someone call you by your name.
Demanding a burka is like demanding someone else respond to whatever pronoun YOU want to call them.
One is demanding that people refer to you the way you want to be referred. The other is forcing something into someone else.
I think OP meant you using the wrong pronoun when talking to someone who would rather you didn’t is akin to imprisoning that someone in a burka.
Which clearly is something someone in the first world without too many problems in life would say.
Oh, maybe I misunderstood. If that’s the case, I guess that’s at least a more accurate comparison than what I thought they meant.
I thought they meant that someone asking them to use a preferred pronoun was like forcing them to wear a burka.
Nope, OP said that making someone use a pronoun is akin to demanding a burka
Well, either way, it’s not really worth thinking about for more than 10 seconds, because quite frankly the parallel is pretty fucking dumb.
That does assume that the person wearing the burka is doing so because they are forced to.
This is not universally true and thus the comparison you make is also not true.
Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-24/why-do-muslim-women-wear-a-burka-niqab-or-hijab/5761510
The term “demanding” led me to that assumption.
If someone wants to wear one, that’s fine, and irrelevant to this conversation. I was referring to people who are forced to wear one despite their wishes.