• HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    There phones don’t come with this.

    Oh go on then. Who is pushing malware onto OPs phone and how? Please be specific.

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      1 year ago

      Not OP, but you tend to see these kinds of shenanigans from phones that are locked to carriers, the carriers are the ones who end up pushing the apps onto the phone during an update.

      Sprint was pretty bad with their bloat ware back in the day, when I made the switch from my Sprint-locked S6 to my unlocked Pixel 1, I never had that problem again.

      My mom and dad have unlocked S22’s and they don’t have these issues as far as I’m aware. I know if my dad did he would have complained about it.

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        1 year ago

        Not OP, but you tend to see these kinds of shenanigans from phones that are locked to carriers

        Yes, that does ALSO happen. But carriers are not responsible for updates. Updates are pushed by the OEM…

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      1 year ago

      The carrier does. Your phrasing suggests you think it is bullshit, but it isn’t. They’ve done this for a long time. If you throw in another carrier’s sim in your unlocked phone, you’ll notice it downloads a splash screen and other various software that they push. https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthickey/2014/12/01/carriers-can-now-install-apps-on-android-handsets-without-customers-permission/?sh=5266cd655dde

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          So you’d prefer a phone that is so locked down that anyone can only install what Samsung deems appropriate? I sure don’t. I know I’m sounding like a fanboy for Samsung, but your irritation is misplaced. Just about all phones allow software installed from the carrier. That’d be like downloading some garbage app from the play store and then crying about how Samsung sucks for allowing you to do that. They allow the loading of carrier software to enable carrier-specific features such as visual voicemail. There are plenty of valid qualms to be had with Samsung, but the carrier or vendor is where the blame should be placed for this kind of crap.

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        1 year ago

        The carrier is not in charge of updates. Updates are pushed by the OEM. If there’s bloatware being loaded onto the phone, it’s because the OEM is allowing it to be.

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          I wouldn’t want Samsung (or any other manufacturer) to be the arbiter of what is and is not allowed to be installed on my phone. I’m not immune to being annoyed by bloatware I’ve seen in the past, but it isn’t Samsung I’ve been annoyed at. I prefer being allowed to install whatever I want on a device I own. The mechanisms for updates are indeed developed by the OEM, but they also provide the means for the installation and configuration of carrier-specific applications and features (splash screens and visual voicemail, for example) by the carrier. The features could not work without doing this. When the carrier exploits this by pushing the bloat, I place the blame on the carrier, not Samsung.