• taiyang@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You know, even before COVID-19, there would be flu, rsv, etc. outbreaks and there would barely be a blerb about it. People would send kids to school sick, literally everyone would catch it, and it sucked. Maybe less lethal, but it still sucked. And I always caught whatever was going around cause we just didn’t have the culture here.

    At least now there’s more recognition, some people might wear masks, and there’s a fighting chance I don’t catch the thing everyone gets that season (at least in California where it’s still ok to wear a mask without ridicule).

    Except my sister gave me COVID two months ago since I let her stay here to avoid homelessness. Can’t fix bad habit family members, and getting a false negative on a test gave her confidence to get me and my baby sick. Ugh, bad times.

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      Those outbreaks didn’t kill a million people Ina year, and did not strain the hospital system to the point of breaking.

      Well, there was the Spanish flu which also lead to mask mandates and other social safety measures as covid.

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        1 year ago

        It’s certainly more deadly, yes. That’s why it got more attention. But I’m young and the risk to me is about the same, plus that’s not really my point. I’m mostly saying that I’m grateful people actually care about hygiene for once, 2020 the first time in my life I didn’t catch “the thing going around” since I didn’t have a jackass coughing on everything at work or school.

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          Mask mandates are not about protecting you, they are about limiting the spread throughout the population. You may have even had it with no symptoms and gave it to someone else, and the spread in the population as a whole is the threat.

          I haven’t seen a trend towards people caring about hygiene around the midwest.

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        Flu absolutely killed a grip of people when it was new.

        It eventually became endemic and what we live with now. More or less what we have with covid. It will rear its ugly head every year as it mutates. Some will get it and have a rough time, some people’s immunity or vaccine will help make it less deadly contagious as it was in 2020.

        Life goes on. Wear a mask or don’t, but we are way past the point of putting the genie back in the bottle

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          If half the population wears a mask during a pandemic, it won’t slow the spread very much.

          Leaving safety measures as a personal choice for contagious diseases is like letting everyone decide whether or not they want to stop at red lights based on personal preference. Sure, you can be in a rural area and pretty much ignore most stoplights without a collision, but in a city the negative effects will be rapid and deadly.

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            1 year ago

            Sure but I don’t think we are in the pandemic anymore.

            Again wear a mask or don’t. I don’t give a shit. I’m personally done with them until rates start to spike again, or for when I travel on an airplane.

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      where it’s still ok to wear a mask without ridicule

      Serious question, why are people being ridiculed for wearing masks in the US? Is this generally how it goes in all of the US?

      I’m from Asia and most countries here have been wearing masks even before the pandemic for multiple reasons - pollution, not wanting to spread sickness including the basic cough and cold not just flu or COVID, when at a clinic or hospital, etc. I wear a mask even when I just have allergic rhinitis just so that I don’t accidentally blow snot all over somebody else. No one would bat an eye here if you wore a mask.

      I don’t understand the negative connotation to wearing masks and why anyone would care if you’re wearing one.

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        1 year ago

        Maybe before the pandemic someone somewhere might have said something but not now. Even living in a rural area people don’t say anything at all. I don’t know where that user got the idea that you’d be ridiculed.

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          I still frequently wear a mask in busy/crowded areas and have probably received a dozen comments about it in the last week alone. So it definitely happens.

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            I don’t wear a mask anymore, but people glare at people that do. I also got a lot of harassing comments when I was wearing a mask last year.

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        Politics, the party in charge decided that the best response was to pretend the problem didn’t exist and maybe it’ll go away. Wearing a mask is a very public sign that there is a problem.

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        Yeah. In Malaysia before covid, every flu season i could see some people(not a lot) start wearing mask, and people masked up as well in hazy season. Just before Covid become the pandemic i can see people already started to wear one before the mandate. Of course, nowadays some butthurt netizen will still jab at those wear mask here and there, but other than that, i still see people wear mask everywhere i go, which is a great thing. Sanitary and personal health shouldn’t be something that get ridiculed.

        But then again, it’s Asia, and SARS is pretty big back then.

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        because wearing a mask is for pussies.

        it’s really as simple as that. it’s seen as weak and pathetic and makes you an object of ridicule.

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        US culture is founded on individualism at the expense of everyone else. A lot of people buy into the idea that any kind of government imposed action, even as minor as wearing a face covering that even helps the wearer, is a horrible tragedy and assault on their ability to make bad decisions. Those people are belligerent and numerous.

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          The US government were also months late to handling COVID, and the conservative leadership in power was actively demonizing safety protocols such as masks, vaccines, social distancing, etc not to mention their own Center for Disease Control, to the point that a fair percentage of the population is distrustful of medical science and unwilling to consider those safety protocols.

          A lot of the news media (left and right) focused on things like getting people back to work in spite of the ongoing pandemic so it really forced the narrative away from collective safety and survival into economic prioritization and the illusion of normalcy.

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            You either seem to have people who just care about themselves and their comfort and beliefs only, or people who pretend to care about others, only to satisfy their ego and beliefs in the process, sometimes at the expense of the group they pretend to care about.

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      Some 40 to 70 thousand people in the US die every year from the flu. I think the big thing is most people don’t care until it affects them personally. It’s been weird seeing covid coverage be all, “THINK OF THE DEATHS” as if that meaningfully would change much