Oil companies are ultimately to blame. After all, it was the Rockefeller Foundation who did the early radiation studies in the 50s, and then blatantly lied about the results to make radiation sound super scary. They claimed that there was no safe dose of radiation, and that any exposure, no matter how small, led to a direct, linear, increase in cancer risk.
And then the oil companies funded politicians who declared education to be the enemy, so now Americans don’t know enough physics to know that every day, they are swimming in safe doses of ionizing radiation. That ocean water has millions of tons of natural uranium oxide dissolved in it.
US nuclear policy has been based off of these lies, it’s part of why nuclear power is so expensive.
Those same oil companies actually paid to found Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth to specifically advocate against nuclear power, by spreading fear and lies about how nuclear physics work.
The Rockefeller foundation still funds Greenpeace, and still requires that Greenpeace be anti-nuclear to receive that funding. All while being heavily invested in oil.
Because those are Military. They need to work and not be dependent on a few multi-national companies for fuel.
Besides, those things are designed by people who actually know nuclear physics, and are not hamstrung by review boards and astroturf protest movements.
And also accepting oil money to fight against nuclear power. They were literally founded to spread the lie that nuclear isn’t green.
Hell, you can look it up for yourself, they still take money from the Rockefeller Foundation.
They have never been as blatantly owned by oil money as Friends of the Earth, which was founded by a man who hated nuclear much more than he hated oil company money.
The current Rockefeller Foundation pretends to care about the environment. They even (partially) divested from oil company stocks a couple years ago.
Just because something is non-renewable does not mean it is non-sustainable, just like how something being renewable does not mean it is sustainable.
Hydro (or tidal barrage) power is an example of a renewable energy source, but it restricts river flow such that life can’t exist as it naturally has for eons, like fish swimming up/down river, etc., or restricts the flow of minerals and nutrients that feed various niches of river or inlet biodiversity. Those effects on a local ecosystem can lead to other species collapsing elsewhere, which can impact other species, including humans.
Coal power is an example of a non-renewable resource as it depends on minerals that form at much slower rates than on the sorts of time scales humans use those minerals. Coal also leads to deaths of many humans and other species not only in the mining of resources (mine collapses, tailing pond ruptures, lung diseases, etc.), but also in the burning of the minerals via the release of radiation and other particulates that can impact local communities.
Nuclear is, imo, the best non-renewable source we can exercise for human purposes, so we should still pursue it.
Bud, that link specifically lists nuclear energy as being sustainable and green. Did you not understand that, or were you just hoping nobody would actually click on the link?
Most folks, including nuclear advocates, have little understanding of either fission products or neutron activation. They really have no need to. I don’t think the data isn’t there if you look for it though. It’s just not simple to understand.
More like, ignorance caused by my local news deciding to run a story telling people there is a controversy, without making a simple statement like the water is less radioactive than a banana. There’s a controversy in part because the media encourages it, at almost every opportunity.
It’s reasonable to be concerned about the long term health effects of tritiated water. It’s very unlikely this will have any effects though. It’s only like a few grams. I bet fusion power would produce a whole lot more, even through the blanket. That could have considerable local health effects.
It is. And it’s maddening that people just say the word Fukushima as evidence against the viability of nuclear power. Radiation is such a boogeyman to people. Not well understood. And I don’t even think people know that there was a tsunami that killed 2000 people. 1 death from radiation - a plant worker.
Sure, let’s discard a high capacity, carbon-neutral, baseline-capable form of energy over this.
People don’t even know that smokestacks on coal fired power plants spew radiation into the atmosphere. The fact that nuclear deposits it in barrels is actually a plus.
The level of ignorance around any nuclear related incident is astounding
If the radiation levels are truly negligible then the media shares blame for getting people upset over it.
Oil companies are ultimately to blame. After all, it was the Rockefeller Foundation who did the early radiation studies in the 50s, and then blatantly lied about the results to make radiation sound super scary. They claimed that there was no safe dose of radiation, and that any exposure, no matter how small, led to a direct, linear, increase in cancer risk.
And then the oil companies funded politicians who declared education to be the enemy, so now Americans don’t know enough physics to know that every day, they are swimming in safe doses of ionizing radiation. That ocean water has millions of tons of natural uranium oxide dissolved in it.
US nuclear policy has been based off of these lies, it’s part of why nuclear power is so expensive.
Those same oil companies actually paid to found Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth to specifically advocate against nuclear power, by spreading fear and lies about how nuclear physics work.
The Rockefeller foundation still funds Greenpeace, and still requires that Greenpeace be anti-nuclear to receive that funding. All while being heavily invested in oil.
The all-powerful oil companies couldn’t kill nuclear powered submarines or nuclear powered aircraft carriers. Why is that?
Because those are Military. They need to work and not be dependent on a few multi-national companies for fuel.
Besides, those things are designed by people who actually know nuclear physics, and are not hamstrung by review boards and astroturf protest movements.
Well, I’ve got some bad news about every single military vehicle with wheels or tracks and military airplane the United States operates.
I think they usually consult some people who know nuclear physics when they build nuclear power plants.
Yes, oil is a massive issue for world militaries. You just figured that part out?
Also, you missed part of the sentence;
Greenpeace has been boycotting oil companies before you were even born. Nuclear isn’t green and neither is oil. Don’t spread misinformation
Nuclear energy is the closest thing we’ve got to green energy that we’re going to get for the foreseeable future. Anyone opposing it is an idiot.
Instead of just getting closer to green energy you can use green energy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_energy
Your own link says that provides 15% of the world’s energy. You’re one of the idiots.
And also accepting oil money to fight against nuclear power. They were literally founded to spread the lie that nuclear isn’t green.
Hell, you can look it up for yourself, they still take money from the Rockefeller Foundation.
They have never been as blatantly owned by oil money as Friends of the Earth, which was founded by a man who hated nuclear much more than he hated oil company money.
The current Rockefeller Foundation pretends to care about the environment. They even (partially) divested from oil company stocks a couple years ago.
Nuclear is not green, stop spreading misinformation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_energy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_energy#Nuclear_power
Seems to be listed, It’s just that Oil money has paid for a lot of lies. Spoiler, it’s because nuclear is the only true threat to fossil fuels.
Yes it’s listed under Non-renewable energy sources
Just because something is non-renewable does not mean it is non-sustainable, just like how something being renewable does not mean it is sustainable.
Hydro (or tidal barrage) power is an example of a renewable energy source, but it restricts river flow such that life can’t exist as it naturally has for eons, like fish swimming up/down river, etc., or restricts the flow of minerals and nutrients that feed various niches of river or inlet biodiversity. Those effects on a local ecosystem can lead to other species collapsing elsewhere, which can impact other species, including humans.
Coal power is an example of a non-renewable resource as it depends on minerals that form at much slower rates than on the sorts of time scales humans use those minerals. Coal also leads to deaths of many humans and other species not only in the mining of resources (mine collapses, tailing pond ruptures, lung diseases, etc.), but also in the burning of the minerals via the release of radiation and other particulates that can impact local communities.
Nuclear is, imo, the best non-renewable source we can exercise for human purposes, so we should still pursue it.
LMAO the dude got debunked off his own link
Bud, that link specifically lists nuclear energy as being sustainable and green. Did you not understand that, or were you just hoping nobody would actually click on the link?
It doesn’t, learn how to read
Yes, the ignorance is mainly caused by governments and lobbies keeping quiet about what actually happened and washing down data
Most folks, including nuclear advocates, have little understanding of either fission products or neutron activation. They really have no need to. I don’t think the data isn’t there if you look for it though. It’s just not simple to understand.
More like, ignorance caused by my local news deciding to run a story telling people there is a controversy, without making a simple statement like the water is less radioactive than a banana. There’s a controversy in part because the media encourages it, at almost every opportunity.
If you believe it’s safer than a banana why don’t you go living in Futaba? I heard the houses are pretty cheap there
It’s reasonable to be concerned about the long term health effects of tritiated water. It’s very unlikely this will have any effects though. It’s only like a few grams. I bet fusion power would produce a whole lot more, even through the blanket. That could have considerable local health effects.
Truly. The evacuation order itself killed more people around Fukushima than radiation did.
I want to know more about this do you have an article you recommend?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster_casualties
Damn that’s pretty sad
It is. And it’s maddening that people just say the word Fukushima as evidence against the viability of nuclear power. Radiation is such a boogeyman to people. Not well understood. And I don’t even think people know that there was a tsunami that killed 2000 people. 1 death from radiation - a plant worker.
Sure, let’s discard a high capacity, carbon-neutral, baseline-capable form of energy over this.
People don’t even know that smokestacks on coal fired power plants spew radiation into the atmosphere. The fact that nuclear deposits it in barrels is actually a plus.