There are females. There are males. It’s only the chronically online who don’t have regular conversations with normal people that somehow find this offensive.
As a noun, I.e. like what that OP is doing, that’s is weird and is phrasung normally associated with incels and sexism.
It’s not like there aren’t other nouns to use. If woman and lady are just too normal for you, even lass, bird, girl, or gal would be less weird to say.
OP chose the weirdest, easiest to take offence to phrasing they could. They fucked around and found out.
At worst, it’s gauche. It’s much more likely that the moderator was personally offended by the use of that word than anything else. I have my own pet peeves. I can’t stand the sound of someone saying “an historic event” … but I’m not going to go around banning people over it. All that’s going to do is make everyone more and more angry.
This is why we put specific, actionable rules on communities, people!
was personally offended by the use of that word saw an opportunity to tell some other person what’s what, which is deeply satisfying to them, and overrides the question of what’s the actual right and wrong thing to do
This makes sense in accents that skip the H in historic. Whenever I read it I mentally assign the post a comedically posh accent. Might help you tolerate it more?
Anyway, I agree with you - we all have our pet peeves, but banning over them is just silly.
I have regular conversations with normal people all the time. If they use “female” in reference to a human being to my face, I’m calling them on it. It is 100% an incel dog whistle. If they continue, that’s a clear indication that they are not a person I want to regularly be around.
Woman is a word. Usually it’s more questionable when someone says man and female. It makes women sound less than by making it more sterile and similar to specimens. It really depends on context. Female is language, but it’s usage could easily make it incel language. Context is key. Not a fan of calling out an action with zero context whatsoever like the above post.
Wow, way to reveal that you’ve never interacted with a woman. You think you can just speak for all of them? You know every single woman’s thoughts and words, huh? Or maybe you just think you do because in your mind they don’t have their own thoughts and opinions, and could only possibly agree with everything that you believe, because the only women you’ve ever interacted with were in your imagination.
Not the guy you were replying to, but if you genuinely believe woman don’t think it’s weird being referred to as females (noun, not adjective) then I really have wonder how many women you’ve spoken to
Referring to women as female, especially in the same breath as saying men, is impersonal and cold feeling.
They do feel more like specimen terms because it’s really only used in the context of academic material or government forms. Yeah words have their meaning, but you also have to look at the context of how it’s used.
And on top of that it’s still a weird and clunky title. You either say male and female, which does feel weird and impersonal, or you say man and woman. Mixing them like that does feel strange. For example, you wouldn’t say felines and dogs, you’d say cats and dogs. You wouldn’t say interior and outside, you’d say inside and outside or interior and exterior.
I don’t disagree, but I’ve noticed that second or third language speakers with certain first languages (no idea which languages, they just have certain similar patterns in English so I’m assuming there’s a reason for that) tend to use both males and females when they speak English. It sounds weird, but it’s not necessarily sexist in that context.
It’s true that it’s often inception shit though, but it’s mostly easy to tell the difference.
It’s not incel language. It’s just language.
There are females. There are males. It’s only the chronically online who don’t have regular conversations with normal people that somehow find this offensive.
Would you refer to men the same way?
As a Ferengi, I agree. This is just normal language
As an adjective, i.e. as you’re using it, sure.
As a noun, I.e. like what that OP is doing, that’s is weird and is phrasung normally associated with incels and sexism.
It’s not like there aren’t other nouns to use. If woman and lady are just too normal for you, even lass, bird, girl, or gal would be less weird to say.
OP chose the weirdest, easiest to take offence to phrasing they could. They fucked around and found out.
Found out the mod was powertripping yeah
That’s a warning at best
At worst, it’s gauche. It’s much more likely that the moderator was personally offended by the use of that word than anything else. I have my own pet peeves. I can’t stand the sound of someone saying “an historic event” … but I’m not going to go around banning people over it. All that’s going to do is make everyone more and more angry.
This is why we put specific, actionable rules on communities, people!
was personally offended by the use of that wordsaw an opportunity to tell some other person what’s what, which is deeply satisfying to them, and overrides the question of what’s the actual right and wrong thing to doThis makes sense in accents that skip the H in historic. Whenever I read it I mentally assign the post a comedically posh accent. Might help you tolerate it more?
Anyway, I agree with you - we all have our pet peeves, but banning over them is just silly.
I have regular conversations with normal people all the time. If they use “female” in reference to a human being to my face, I’m calling them on it. It is 100% an incel dog whistle. If they continue, that’s a clear indication that they are not a person I want to regularly be around.
Woman is a word. Usually it’s more questionable when someone says man and female. It makes women sound less than by making it more sterile and similar to specimens. It really depends on context. Female is language, but it’s usage could easily make it incel language. Context is key. Not a fan of calling out an action with zero context whatsoever like the above post.
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Idk, every woman I’ve talked to about this seems to have an opinion, and they disagree with you.
Wow, all 0 of them.
No, that’s why it’s not used outside the Internet to talk about women.
It’s also the thoughts and words of the women who hear it. But maybe they aren’t normal people in your opinion.
Wow, way to reveal that you’ve never interacted with a woman. You think you can just speak for all of them? You know every single woman’s thoughts and words, huh? Or maybe you just think you do because in your mind they don’t have their own thoughts and opinions, and could only possibly agree with everything that you believe, because the only women you’ve ever interacted with were in your imagination.
Get a life.
Not the guy you were replying to, but if you genuinely believe woman don’t think it’s weird being referred to as females (noun, not adjective) then I really have wonder how many women you’ve spoken to
Look, you just had your world view challenged. You have been informed that you may be doing something that contributes to misogyny.
The non-sexist thing to do is to listen. Educate yourself on the subject. Learn how you can be a better person.
The sexist thing to do is to double down. Talk over every other voice. Lash out at the world and claim you are the only person who talks to women.
Clinical and scientific words do that. That’s why normal people say “women” instead of “females”
Referring to women as female, especially in the same breath as saying men, is impersonal and cold feeling.
They do feel more like specimen terms because it’s really only used in the context of academic material or government forms. Yeah words have their meaning, but you also have to look at the context of how it’s used.
And on top of that it’s still a weird and clunky title. You either say male and female, which does feel weird and impersonal, or you say man and woman. Mixing them like that does feel strange. For example, you wouldn’t say felines and dogs, you’d say cats and dogs. You wouldn’t say interior and outside, you’d say inside and outside or interior and exterior.
I don’t disagree, but I’ve noticed that second or third language speakers with certain first languages (no idea which languages, they just have certain similar patterns in English so I’m assuming there’s a reason for that) tend to use both males and females when they speak English. It sounds weird, but it’s not necessarily sexist in that context.
It’s true that it’s often inception shit though, but it’s mostly easy to tell the difference.
Hence context is key
Uhu, I was agreeing with that
It’s weird to say in normal conversation. I’ve only seen people say “female” online when referring to women and girls.