• Bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world
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    You’re still relying on old information. He clarified this. Starlink was never active over crimea. He was asked to activate it and said no as that was part of the restrictions on the deployment and would have been breaking the terms that clarified it as an act of war from the west.

    He didn’t shut them off. Access was never active in that region.

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      You do know those starlinks move over the planets surface, right?

      The only way to not have them active over a certain area (excluding the poles) is by deactivating them when they fly over.

      Either Elmo doesn’t know how his own planet wide network works, or he is lying.

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        You do realize starlink has always had regional and location based activation for multitudes of reasons. Including laws of said countries.

        Yes. It’s deactivated over crimea. It always was.

        Similar to how it stopped functioning if you tried to use it in international waters.

        If you get starlink location of use is included in the setup. Which is why you can’t just slap it onto a boat or something. (though they do now sell a starlink with that functionality)

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      “Raytheon never deactivated their missiles, they just don’t work over the target.”

      That’s deactivating them dummy. Where do you think Ukraine is going with their Starlinks? Disneyland?

      • Bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world
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        Over Ukrainian territory. For defensive purposes. Where it was originally agreed for. Crimea hasn’t been Ukraine for years (even though it should be). Offensives into Russia were not part of any operational original deals.

        It’s not deactivating if it was never live there.

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            Yes. However Russia has claimed it years before this conflict and threatened retaliation if westerners interfere. It’s why all of the supplies we give are only used in Ukraine. The attacks on Russian soil are not with Western supplies intentionally and this would be no different.

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              However Russia has claimed it years before this conflict

              No, it claimed when conflict started. Just before February Putin didn’t go any further.

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          The individual base station (or whatever) has its service deactivated when it goes to Crimea, which is internationally recognized as Ukrainian territory.

          No one but Russian bootlickers think Crimea is part of Russia.

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            Right. The individual base stations always have had a service region. It’s why I can’t use starlink over international waters and the same thing happens from a fishing boat or anything. There’s no purposeful deactivations. Just boundaries of service already established.

            It’s literally part of the service when you sign up.

            You’re right that technically he could provide coverage anywhere in the world. There’s lots of reasons he doesn’t. But that’s always been part of the service.

            18 UNcountries recognize it as Russian territory. Some of them large superpowers or economic hubs. Including one that’s expected to launch starlink soon. (Though all generally shitty countries.)

            But aside from that. The rules for supplying things to Ukraine were spelled out very clearly. It’s why none of the Western supplies hsve been used in Russian territory attacks. Doing so Russia claimed it would retaliate.

            The articles are claiming that he intentionally turned it off when it was originally on and that’s not the case. It was never active there.

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              18 UNcountries recognize it as Russian territory

              Russia, Belarus, China, North Korea, Cuba, Eritrea. What are rest of 12 countries?

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                India , and several African and middle eastern countries. (iirc Iran was on there etc). By no means a real winner list but just worth noting.

                In particular India which starlink is set to go active in very soon.