• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Sadly, I live in the U.S., so if I went to this website, it would definitely take my data and sell it.

    We don’t get a GDPR to protect us. Be glad you do.

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      Why do you need a GDPR to protect you? If you don’t want tracking cookies then don’t let web sites write them to your computer. You are in charge of your computer.

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        Wish it was that simple. The problem with the internet, as a whole, is someone figured out they can collect just about everything from your data, with or without cookies, and sell it to big companies.

        Everything is about that almighty dollar. We are now the product under the guise of being a consumer.

        You want to complain about access being blocked because of where you live, fine just makes you an easy commodity to sell to someone else.

        Tbf, you want complete anonymity, stay off the web, don’t use bank accounts or credit cards, not even those like cash app, become a hermit and tell everyone to fuck off as you are not for sale.

        In reality, it’s policies, like the GDPR, that are actually looking out for your best interest. Here in America the arguement would be “they’re taking away my freedom” or “the government is overreaching” instead of “Hey, someone actually cares about my privacy in the government!”

        Like I have said in another group, people complain about their privacy online and then use the likes of chrome for their browser. We say we care about our privacy, but in the end we are a tool that doesn’t do the job we need done.

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          The thing is, if someone makes observations about you, and save that in the form of data, that’s not your data. It’s their data. It might be about you, but people are allowed to observe and sell their observations.

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            1 year ago

            This is true. However, they need to inform you that they are collecting this data, what data they are collecting, and why, and give you the option to opt out of that data collection.

            Just because they can doesn’t give them the right to do so without your explicit permission.

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              Why? I’m allowed to stand at a street corner and watch people walk by. I’m allowed to count them, and observe the direction they’re going. I don’t need any of their permission to do this. I’m allowed to know who they are, and I’m allowed to tell anyone I want what I saw. I’m allowed to charge money for it, and none of the people I observe are a party to this at all, so why should I need to either not do this, or tell them what I’m doing or ask for their permission to remember what I saw? How is internet tracking different?

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                1 year ago

                Because they use personally identifying I for other than what you saw. In your comment does that mean you have a right to follow their personal life and invade it then sell it to others? No!

                Your problem is you like being a commodity rather than just a consumer. You don’t mind your life being intruded on which could include cc numbers or bank account info. You want to lose your money like that that’s fine. Me personally, they can get out of my life and quit following what I want to do just to make a quick buck. Fuck that, me and my personal information is not for sale! And if anyone seems to think it is, I will stop them as that is my right.

                Personally I think all tracking cookies should be banned on the internet worldwide! I am not a commodity.

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                  I think there’s a difference here where there’s a reasonable expectation of privacy, and where there is not. Out on the sidewalk, you don’t have one. Selling someone’s CC is a violation of contract law because you do have an expectation of privacy there. So, we have to be very clear, what kind of data are we talking about? “Sharon Thomas visited this site, looked at these items, spent 14.2 seconds looking at that item, then clicked on this link,” I think, is not something you can expect privacy from.
                  However, there are some things I do think you have an expectation of privacy from, which is the collation and sale of personal information that the customer enters into the site for the purposes of business with that site, like the collation names with addresses, driver’s license numbers, social security numbers (or whatever local equivalents), etc. Another thing is that, and I don’t know if I’m 100% right here, but I believe that when you visit a site, even by typing an address into the address bar, the site you’re visiting is told, by your browser, what site you’re coming from. That doesn’t make sense to me, and that’s not a thing that should exist.

                  Nonetheless, I don’t think the GDPR is a good fit for addressing any of these issues.

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      1 year ago

      Proxy using an EU based server. Not like websites are going to actually check that you live there.

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          I mean, honestly, you’d have to already have poor Internet to not be able to max out most connections regardless. It’s the lag that is affected and it’s likely still under a second.

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            I don’t know, I used to use a VPN to France (not the same server each time) when I was downloading torrents, and when I forgot to turn it off, uploads for work were glacial. High upload speed is really necessary for my work because I regularly upload files which are half a gigabyte or more and need to get that done as quickly as possible. Now I VPN to Canada and I don’t really have that problem anymore.

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              A torrent client may need settings in the client changed, firewall rules changed, and ports open on the router. Even with all that a VPN could still have a limited connection. Some VPNs allow you control over this but I doubt free ones do

              Things are changing rapidly but asynchronous upload/download speeds are not always offered by ISPs and uploading was always slower than downloading… used to be never but I’ve seen more and more ISPs offer asynchronous speeds

              There are a huge number of factors that we don’t know that could account for your slower speeds

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                1 year ago

                Fair enough, I’m not an expert. I just know what I experienced when I used the VPN (PrivateInternetAccess FWIW). I didn’t change any settings on it.

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              Uploads would likely be a lot more affected as your connection is very lopsided. I should have been more specific that down is a lot more difficult to max out. And uploads are more affected by your connection speed. So yeah, uploads you may see a difference. Depending on what you’re torrenting though, VPN is likely safer for that to begin with.

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              Upload speeds will be a lot slower than downloads speeds because VPNs are optimised for downloading. That’s one you mate.

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                  Eh? You are giving VPNs a bad review without knowing how to use them effectively. There is nothing wrong with not knowing something only with assuming.

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                    1 year ago

                    Considering I use my VPN almost every day, how am I giving them a bad review? I even said I didn’t have this problem when I connected to Canada.

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        1 year ago

        If you use a EU proxy for the site in OPs screenshot you would presumably just get the same message.