• redballooon@lemm.eeEnglish
    5710·
    1 year ago

    The great misunderstanding of hard left leaning western folks is that neither Russia nor China are socialist or communist.

    Just like their hard right leaning counterparts they’re stuck in a mindset from the first half of the past century.

    • antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      321·
      1 year ago

      They don’t really believe Russia is socialist to any degree, they just support it because it (supposedly) opposes the western hegemony, USA/NATO, etc.

      Basically the same logic as that of pro-Russian right-wingers.

      • wick@lemm.eeEnglish
        71·
        1 year ago

        I had a bunch of hexbear and ml’s tell me russian war crimes in Berlin were “Nazi myths”. Apparently the Nazis had more influence over the world of historical academia after they lost than Russia.

        Also other allied war crimes did happen and weren’t Nazi myths.

    • mnoram@lemmy.worldEnglish
      122·
      1 year ago

      I think I’m confused. I haven’t seen any left leaning people support Russia or China. It’s right leaning people that support them. What am I missing? Also I’ve never seen any left leaning people say Russia and China are actually socialist or communist since the 80s or 90s. I’ve seen right leaning people claim that lefties believe that but never any examples in real life.

      • qaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        72·
        1 year ago

        Left and right is not a defined group, it’s a name and any group can pretend/think they belong to it.

      • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        22·
        1 year ago

        The most support for China is basic materialist analysis: they’ve heavily invested in housing, high speed rail, electric car infrastructure, and green energy. Coincidentally: all rather related.

        But that is generally the support associated with China: a materialist analysis, usually, if not always, regarding infrastructure.