• TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I realy don’t get why people eat those meat subsidies. They are realy not that good and unhealthy too. Cooking a meal just with vegetables and other stuff can taste realy good, is healthy and cheap at the same time.

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      Probably because Americans were raised on a super meat heavy diet. Meat burgers. Meat casseroles. Meat sauces. Meat everything. Fake meats make those recipes achievable for vegetarians and vegans who long for mom’s home cooking.

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        This is only a recent thing historically. Government subsidies and lobbying from the meat industry, not to mention letting agricultural corporations create our food pyramid, got us to where we are today.

        We have been led into an unhealthy lifestyle for the profit of a handful of billionaires.

        Take a look at places where people live above 100 yrs regularly. They aren’t shoveling beef down there throats like Americans are. And we die 20 to 30 years earlier on average

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        Italian here, sardegna. Sausage, porchetto, chicken, lamb (lots of it), small baby birds, brains, all kinds of fish especially sword fish, octopus and Squid, lots of cured meats… the list goes on. Every meal has a meat and we live the longest in italy.

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      1 year ago

      Want to hear some mind-blowing information? Not everyone likes the stuff you like, you’re not the barometer on what is good or what is unhealthy.

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      You want the real reason in a thread jerking off vegetarianism? Here goes:

      1. Meat tastes great.
      2. It gives me a sense of fullness that plants rarely do (except beans).
      3. It’s a better protein source.
      4. The iron, B12, etc. in it are more easily absorbed.
      5. Every brand of fake meat I’ve tried tastes terrible.
      6. It makes me feel the best mentally compared to eating other foods.
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          Impossible and beyond taste delicious in respective appropriate dishes. Dunno wtf you’re on about. Also a lot less prep and clean up to toss a frozen patty on the grill than cook a bunch of veggies. The downside is that it isn’t particularly healthy-- at least on par with a red meat burger. But the idea that they all “taste bad” is just dumb and contrary to what clearly a ton of other people experience.

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        Why is it that countries that don’t eat red meat as much as Americans live far longer than we do?

        Okinawans live well past 100, and are doing physical activity into their 90s. Americans are falling apart by the time they turn 60, dead before they hit 80.

        I hope the flavor is worth the colon cancer!

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          While moderation is the key to everything, and I wouldn’t be surprised if cutting out red.meat is a lot healthier for the consumer

          Feels like you just randomly made something up here by comparing some random outlier stories you’ve heard.

        • MickeySwitcherooney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          I’m sure that’s the only difference between the average American and people from those countries. Same exact genetics, lifestyles, air pollution, economy, etc.

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            I would love you to show me where I said that’s the only difference.

            They also have a sense of community. Americans will fuck over anyone for a slight advantage.

            They also are physically active, unlike Americans eating 3k calories and sitting on their asses all day.

            There are actually many places on Earth that are just like Okinawa in that they have long lives. I think that’s evidence enough that genetics are not a big factor. They are not some sort of superhumans, They just live a better life.

            Go ahead and defend how Americans live… We are insatiable pigs, on a whole. Nearly half of us are overweight because we can’t control ourselves. We have no meaningful culture. We have no sense of community. We are individualistic to the core. And we die before we hit the age 80. But yeah America’s number one right?

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          Not American myself, but I can think of a few factors besides meat:

          • less stress
          • less polution
          • less processed food, be it meat or not
          • less sugar
          • less sedentary lifestyle
          • genes

          Nutrition alone won’t get you to 100. Having a diverse diet keeps ypu healty, but there are many factors that impact health. I do agree that meat is overused in general population, but can’t really force the vegan/vegetarian lifestyle onto an omnivore specie.