The idea the conflict between Israel and Palestine could be solved by everyone just sitting down and talking ignores…well, literally everything. The history of the conflict, the religious and ethnic aspects, the actual desires of both sides apart from a desire for “Peace”, the actions of individuals distinct from their groups, etc.
“This conflict would be over if every person over there didn’t have the beliefs or needs or thoughts or histories that they do, and instead thought about the conflict in the same detached way as people an ocean away with no stake in it”
I know it feels good to say things like this, to assume this position of intellectual superiority because you appreciate killing isn’t the solution, but talking about one of the most complex, long lasted, and heated geopolitical disputes of our time like it’s two misbehaving children fighting over something trivial is not actually wisdom.
I never supposed it would take 2 minutes of talking, but I hope you also understand that killing a few thousand people won’t really resolve the problem, either. And it doesn’t take a science degree. Nobody said I was superior in any way (what does my person have to do with in this matter anyway?); you can actually come to this conclusion without a degree. Still, people shed blood like it would solve anything.
If you honestly think negotiations from both parts (and understanding the other side’s perspective) is not the solution (or at least the part of it) then I’m really curious to how this situation could be handled so that there wouldn’t be any more pointless killings.
Please read history and tell me how often that happens between oppressors and the oppressed. That relationship is broken time and time again by violence, I’m sure you have a ton of examples to give out of the history of your own country as do I.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’m not talking about this particular case. I’m talking in general. It’s not just quite depressing that people are still trying to “solve” their problems by killing each other but also that they feel this is their only option (or, alternatively, it’s also depressing that people get into this oppressive relationship to begin with). Suggesting a cool headed, socially sensitive society, you would expect them to come to a compromise together, maybe even involving 3rd parties.
But no, humanity had to take this path.
(but just because humans have tried to resolve their issues in a violent manner before it doesn’t mean that’s the best example to follow as well)
If only the world were so black and white.
The idea the conflict between Israel and Palestine could be solved by everyone just sitting down and talking ignores…well, literally everything. The history of the conflict, the religious and ethnic aspects, the actual desires of both sides apart from a desire for “Peace”, the actions of individuals distinct from their groups, etc.
“This conflict would be over if every person over there didn’t have the beliefs or needs or thoughts or histories that they do, and instead thought about the conflict in the same detached way as people an ocean away with no stake in it”
I know it feels good to say things like this, to assume this position of intellectual superiority because you appreciate killing isn’t the solution, but talking about one of the most complex, long lasted, and heated geopolitical disputes of our time like it’s two misbehaving children fighting over something trivial is not actually wisdom.
I never supposed it would take 2 minutes of talking, but I hope you also understand that killing a few thousand people won’t really resolve the problem, either. And it doesn’t take a science degree. Nobody said I was superior in any way (what does my person have to do with in this matter anyway?); you can actually come to this conclusion without a degree. Still, people shed blood like it would solve anything. If you honestly think negotiations from both parts (and understanding the other side’s perspective) is not the solution (or at least the part of it) then I’m really curious to how this situation could be handled so that there wouldn’t be any more pointless killings.
Please read history and tell me how often that happens between oppressors and the oppressed. That relationship is broken time and time again by violence, I’m sure you have a ton of examples to give out of the history of your own country as do I.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’m not talking about this particular case. I’m talking in general. It’s not just quite depressing that people are still trying to “solve” their problems by killing each other but also that they feel this is their only option (or, alternatively, it’s also depressing that people get into this oppressive relationship to begin with). Suggesting a cool headed, socially sensitive society, you would expect them to come to a compromise together, maybe even involving 3rd parties.
But no, humanity had to take this path.
(but just because humans have tried to resolve their issues in a violent manner before it doesn’t mean that’s the best example to follow as well)
I agree, but that doesn’t seem to be the case sadly…