The Israeli rescue service Zaka says its paramedics removed more than 260 bodies from a music festival that came under attack by Hamas militants.

The total figure of bodies found is expected to be higher, as other paramedic teams were also working in the area and Zaka added that the bodies “haven’t all been collected yet”.

Early on Saturday morning, Hamas targeted Nova music festival, a techno rave in the desert near the border with Gaza.

Videos shared on social media and by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival-goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled.

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    The us doesn’t hold Mexico or Mexicans in an open air concentration camp we regularly demolish buildings in with war munitions for simple allegation with no due process.

    I’m going to bet it’s going to come out that this is essentially Iran and other countries sending mercs to act as Hamas just as the last major offensive was.

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      There is no justification for what they’ve done. Senseless violence breeds senseless violence, but we can still blame those who do violence. Everyone subjected to Israel’s abuse isn’t killing civilians.

      At this point it seems clear to me that Hamas is just using the Palestinians and doesn’t actually care about them.

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        You’re arguing a point I never made. Point to where I excuse the behavior, I’ll wait.

        Duh, they were an ultra religious sect Israel allowed to exist because they were actively fighting the same enemy, secular Palestinians.

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          Apologies. I didn’t mean to suggest you were excusing it, but my wording certainly implies I did. I just wanted to say that observing the geopolitical cause is different from excusing the murderers – which you’ve just pointed out.

          Israel’s far right government and Hamas have an unholy union where they hurt Israeli and Palestinian civilians alike. Too many people conflate this with all Israelis and all Palestinians though :/

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            Bingo. Most Israeli aren’t zionists but all accounts, most Palestinians aren’t terrorists or even Muslim at this point iirc though frankly the religion is just an excuse to be shitty on all sides. Christians need an Israeli controlled holy land for their end days to happen, Islam wants all of the holy land to exclude Jews especially but Christians also, Israel wants all of Israel because a book says so. It’s fucking absurd.

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      Can you link where that was determined to be the case in their last offensive? Would genuinely like to read this if true.

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      There was already an article out that said Iran helped hamas.

      Tehran is saying they didn’t do it. But articles from wsj and the like have said they did help.

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      The native Americans would beg to differ about how the United States treated the people who were here before them.

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        I’m talking about Mexico today currently as was the person I replied to, and yes as a native I’m aware how shitty the us still treat its native populaces.

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          Shitty treatment? They were genocided and those that survived were pushed into little strips of leftover land. Hundreds of millions of colonists are happily living on the stolen land with plenty of excuses not to leave.

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              C’mon, in the middle of all this shit, it was a small moment of humour.

              I for one will take any and all little silver lining I can get in the middle of this shit, even if its just a momentary small laugh.

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              If someone minimizes genocide and oppression I’ll explain it to anybody that needs it tbh

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            What part of I’m aware are you confused about. Moreover you’re arguing but you clearly don’t have a point, please get to it.

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              Well you seem to be claiming the the analogy of the US retaliating in a no holds barred style against a Mexican attack should not be made, because the US hasn’t acted as bad to warrant such an attack. But that is of course beside the point itself as the above poster stated.

              The US has done a lot worse than Israel. They annihilated more than 95% of the natives ffs. 5 million people.

              Would there be much support if people of Native American ancestry attacked a music festival and killed 500?

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                They are different situations, I’m not saying you can’t compare them but to do so it’s fairly pointless and irrelevant. I can compare a housecat and then planet Mercury but what honestly is the point?

                Arguable to say worse just more and over a longer time since worse is a matter of opinion.

                We don’t have to guess, we just need to see how the feds cleared Alcatraz during a peaceful occupation of land that was still native by treaty.

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      The us doesn’t hold Mexico or Mexicans in an open air concentration camp

      True. The concentration camps on and near the US-Mexican border aren’t open air.