• NimNim@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Yes, let’s find ways to justify Hamas’s barbaric terror attacks! This Whataboutism is sickening.

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      1 year ago

      Hit a dog with a stick everyday, one day the dog will bite. Sure, the biting isn’t good behavior and must be called out, but it could have been expected given the actions that led to the incident.

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        What do you guys have with your animal metaphors? A dog that bites and hurts a human is put down usually. Did you think about that too, when you came up with that analogy?

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          The thing is, Israel has been bullying, then you cannot be surprised by the reaction. Even though the reaction itself isn’t good at all. Both sides share the blame of this war and humanitarian crisis

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            1 year ago

            Bullshit.

            What did those civilians from foreign countries do to deserve getting raped, killed and paraded around?

            This is not one bit better than Daesh or Boko Haram.

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              I don’t condone how and what they are doing. But I don’t negate the fact that something like a big assault on Israel was bound to happen.

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        So according to you, Palestinians have no more intellectual capacity, morality or self restraint than dogs? That’s not racist at all. Also calling rapes and mass murder “not good behavior, but” is fucked up.

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      A+ for the level headed and unbiased response to… a link.

      I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume you have never been disgusted at Israel’s treatment of Palestinians.

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        I have been repeatedly disgusted by Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and I also believe what Hamas did was wrong.

        Sorry the world is not as black and white as you desperately wish it was.

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          I feel you. It isn’t black and white. I support the freedom of the Palestinians but what Hamas did was horrible. But even some Israelis citizens in Israel are saying that this is happening because what has been happening to Palestinians.

          Israel cannot smell their BS when they come on TV doing the Pikachu surprise face and saying why is this happening to Israel.

          But I’ve said it before. “When their is no signs of hope, people will look at even evil organizations as helpers.”

          It’s sad but it also some truth to it.

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      No one has tried to justify anything. Do you believe that would justify the situation? This is an article stating facts

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        You are sharing this post just days after 1k Israely - a lot of them civilians, e.g. the 200+ festival goers - were killed by terrorists. It’s a bad faith post, even if the article is factually true (haven’t clicked on it).

        The IDF are not the good guys, but neither is Hamas - two things can be bad at the same time, and we can emphatize with the suffering of in ocent civilians, withouth trying to relativize either side’s atrocities.

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        I believe his criticism is the intentions he perceives to be behind your sharing the article, not the information itself.

        Given the article date and the putrid acts of evil that Hamas just committed, his suspicion behind your intentions isn’t unwarranted. Seems suspiciously like an attempt at whataboutism.

        And before anyone jumps to conclusions about my views, I empathize and support the civilians on both sides, and condemn the putrid acts of terror from Hamas as well as the expansionism and ethnic cleansing Isreal has committed.

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        Yeah, that you posted an article from August to WorldNews only two days after the rapes and mass murders is just a coincidence.

      • OKRainbowKid@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Why do you post an article that’s over a month old to a community that is explicitly about news? It’s pretty obvious you have an agenda and are posting articles to promote it.

        That being said, fuck Hamas and fuck the Israeli government.

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      Sometimes “both sides” can be a serious argument, for example, when both sides in the decades-old Israeli/Palestinian conflict have committed many atrocities against civilians on both sides. This sort of atrocious attack is never justifiable, and also it’s hardly surprising, given the years-old Israeli blockade of Gaza has pushed its population to desperation, which created a culture where radicalization is more likely to flourish. Even now, the Israeli response to this attack has been to deprive the 2 million Palestinians living in Gaza of food, water, and electricity, which certainly constitutes another atrocity