Note that you have not at all commented on the legal discrimination against Palestinians. The fact that they are pushed into concentration camps. The continued violence they are subjected to every single day for their entire lives. The actions of a few on one fucking day of the year do not justify the last 70 years of violence committed against Palestinians.
I never said that the women who were raped and murdered deserved it, or that it was justified in any way. It wasn’t. I’m a rape survivor. The actions taken on these innocent women are unforgivable.
What I am saying is Israel’s response to it, that being calling for the genocide of Palestinian is not justified.
Never said anything supported rapists, again I have been raped before asshole and any rapist is vile and their crimes unforgivable.
Odd that you transplant the atrocities committed by those rapists onto all of Palestine. I’m not playing this game any more with you. Feel free to re-read my comments again. I’m not in the business of giving someone a platform to spread hatred of minorities, minorities who are treated as subhuman by their government.
It was a simple question. Not sure why you feel the need to turn this into an argument.
Again I am not looking for nuance in our interaction here. That was simply my understanding of your view from your words. Please correct them if not accurate rather than go on a crusade of attacks that are neither relevant nor constructive.
(P.S., this attitude of yours is why no one is agreeing with you. Maybe go for a walk and take some deep breaths before responding?)
You asked a loaded question and you knew it would illicit an emotional response. Don’t patronize her. Everything she has said is not wrong. GTFO with your high horse.
Not my fault she’s bad at explaining her stance. Gave her a simple opportunity to simply correct what I’d gleaned from her unhinged responses. She instead decided to argue.
So, go fuck yourself 😘
(also lol what you’re doing is the literal definition of white knighting fyi)
How do I have an attitude, or have gone on a “crusade”? Because I’m pointing out things that are true? I haven’t attacked anyone in this conversation but Netanyahu and the Israeli state. Well, and the one guy who tried to tell me that I was defending rapists who I called an asshole.
What on gods green earth is your problem? How did what I said warrant this response from you? Have I threatened you in some way? Have I insulted you? Jesus christ
You are being disingenuous to equate the actions of Palestinians with the actions of the Israeli state. You either have no idea what the history of this region is, what the state of affairs was prior to this most recent attack, or intentionally dismissing the way that Israel has deprived Palestinians of their human rights and freedoms for the last 70 years.
Palestine COULD NOT genocide Isreal, they have no actual power over the Israeli government, they do not have a modernized military funded by the united states. The Israeli state COULD and OPENLY CALLS for genocide of palestinians. On top of years of mass murdering palestinians and increasingly robbing them of their homes their rights and their safety. They are forced to live in what is essentially a fucking mass gheto and are denied the ability to leave it.
Palestine is not a state, there is no state of Palestine - largely because Israel would never allow one to exist. Palestinians are not a monolith, the actions of some people who are palestinian do not reflect upon all other palestinians. They are a minority ethnic group who are legally deprived of their rights. To even try and say something like “Palestine is not innocent” or “Palestine calls for genocide” is an outright lie that attempts to mischaracterize palestinians as a monolithic organization that is united in their beliefs. They’re not, they’re a diverse group of people who have all manner of different perspectives and opinions. The Israeli state is a state, they set and control the laws that govern palestinians and Israelis. They are the ones who are in control of this situation and always have been.
The deaths of both palestinians (the many thousands of them that there are) and of israelis (the comparatively few of them) are both on the hands of the israeli state who have done as much as possible to ensure that the situation continues to escalate - by continuing to run an apartheid state. The actions of Hamas here are not justifiable and those who commit violent crimes should be condemned.
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Note that you have not at all commented on the legal discrimination against Palestinians. The fact that they are pushed into concentration camps. The continued violence they are subjected to every single day for their entire lives. The actions of a few on one fucking day of the year do not justify the last 70 years of violence committed against Palestinians.
I never said that the women who were raped and murdered deserved it, or that it was justified in any way. It wasn’t. I’m a rape survivor. The actions taken on these innocent women are unforgivable.
What I am saying is Israel’s response to it, that being calling for the genocide of Palestinian is not justified.
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Never said anything supported rapists, again I have been raped before asshole and any rapist is vile and their crimes unforgivable.
Odd that you transplant the atrocities committed by those rapists onto all of Palestine. I’m not playing this game any more with you. Feel free to re-read my comments again. I’m not in the business of giving someone a platform to spread hatred of minorities, minorities who are treated as subhuman by their government.
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So your stance is that it is okay for Hamas and Palestinians to commit acts of terror because Israel terrorized them first?
I’m not really looking for nuance here, or why you feel the way you do, just making sure I understand your view before I respond further.
How is it Hamas and Palestinians? Palestinians are not a monolith they are an ethnic group of people.
It was a simple question. Not sure why you feel the need to turn this into an argument.
Again I am not looking for nuance in our interaction here. That was simply my understanding of your view from your words. Please correct them if not accurate rather than go on a crusade of attacks that are neither relevant nor constructive.
(P.S., this attitude of yours is why no one is agreeing with you. Maybe go for a walk and take some deep breaths before responding?)
You asked a loaded question and you knew it would illicit an emotional response. Don’t patronize her. Everything she has said is not wrong. GTFO with your high horse.
Not my fault she’s bad at explaining her stance. Gave her a simple opportunity to simply correct what I’d gleaned from her unhinged responses. She instead decided to argue.
So, go fuck yourself 😘
(also lol what you’re doing is the literal definition of white knighting fyi)
“Gave her a simple opportunity…” lol, but you are a pretentious little shit, aren’t you?
Pretentious?
…ok.
Do fuck off. If all you have left is ad hominem attacks, I pity you and your clearly inferior intellect.
That’s being pretentious.
Now, as I had said before: Go fuck yourself. 🥂
How do I have an attitude, or have gone on a “crusade”? Because I’m pointing out things that are true? I haven’t attacked anyone in this conversation but Netanyahu and the Israeli state. Well, and the one guy who tried to tell me that I was defending rapists who I called an asshole.
Well clearly you didn’t take a few deep breaths or go for a walk.
You’re fucking ridiculous. I was trying to understand your perspective, but you’re so fucking defensive you cannot have an honest conversation.
Good luck, you’ll need it. Not going to continue to entertain this beyond here.
Maybe get a therapist. Never been so evident in a few messages that someone needs it so badly.
What on gods green earth is your problem? How did what I said warrant this response from you? Have I threatened you in some way? Have I insulted you? Jesus christ
Bye
You really need to smoke some weed or eat like a loooottt of Xanax.
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You are being disingenuous to equate the actions of Palestinians with the actions of the Israeli state. You either have no idea what the history of this region is, what the state of affairs was prior to this most recent attack, or intentionally dismissing the way that Israel has deprived Palestinians of their human rights and freedoms for the last 70 years.
Palestine COULD NOT genocide Isreal, they have no actual power over the Israeli government, they do not have a modernized military funded by the united states. The Israeli state COULD and OPENLY CALLS for genocide of palestinians. On top of years of mass murdering palestinians and increasingly robbing them of their homes their rights and their safety. They are forced to live in what is essentially a fucking mass gheto and are denied the ability to leave it.
Palestine is not a state, there is no state of Palestine - largely because Israel would never allow one to exist. Palestinians are not a monolith, the actions of some people who are palestinian do not reflect upon all other palestinians. They are a minority ethnic group who are legally deprived of their rights. To even try and say something like “Palestine is not innocent” or “Palestine calls for genocide” is an outright lie that attempts to mischaracterize palestinians as a monolithic organization that is united in their beliefs. They’re not, they’re a diverse group of people who have all manner of different perspectives and opinions. The Israeli state is a state, they set and control the laws that govern palestinians and Israelis. They are the ones who are in control of this situation and always have been.
The deaths of both palestinians (the many thousands of them that there are) and of israelis (the comparatively few of them) are both on the hands of the israeli state who have done as much as possible to ensure that the situation continues to escalate - by continuing to run an apartheid state. The actions of Hamas here are not justifiable and those who commit violent crimes should be condemned.