• sederx@programming.dev
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    Isn’t it great that its ambiguous enough that I even need to ask?

    thats the things. its not. the number are out there for everybody to see but you just dont hear about it.

    95% of all victims of this conflicts are palestinians. lets stop pretending the numbers are similar.

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      “well we’re really just evening the dead baby numbers” with the implication that that even remotely makes this justifiable.

      No, I’ll never support anyone who murders babies, be it whatever side or reason. You coming in here and defending baby murdering screams “both sideing” baby murdering as something that’s even remotely defendable. It isn’t, do some self reflection, same to whoever felt the need to upvote such messed up worldview.

      For years I’ve been arguing for the plight of Palestinians, but to hear such disgusting arguments from someone who holds the same goal (freedom of oppression for Palestinians) and spouting that without shame is on par with those who deny the apartheid policies of Israel (I’d argue it’s worse, but at this point it’s the shit Olympics of opinion, and they’re all on the podium).

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          No you are ridiculous for thinking what you wrote isn’t somehow interpretable as that.

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          no need to justify this, the scale of dead kids is still tipped HEAVILY towards Palestinians

          95% of all victims of this conflicts are palestinians. lets stop pretending the numbers are similar.

          But somehow this isn’t a justification on literal dead children. Yeah sure buddy. Could’ve lead with “well there’s no excuse, but there have been far more dead Palestinian children in this conflict”, instead you wrote that drivel. That’s why I’m saying you’re both side-ing literal baby murder.

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        Pretending to be talking about good and evil is defending murdering children. 300 children (according to The Guardian who quotes Palestine authorities) died from Israel strikes already. It’s not like killing in uniform and with “precision” strikes is less killing.

        It is exactly both sides, although there are qualitative (hamas raids of innocents were somewhat more brutal and violent) and quantitative (many more palestinians dead) differences.

        Then there is the whole historical analysis which is a whole other debate.

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          What the hell are you talking about good and evil for?

          Have I so far defended Israel’s response? No, and I don’t actually agree with their response either. The proper approach wasn’t to escalate and as they are in the position of power they have that choice. That still doesn’t mean I’ll go in threads defending actions that have lead to baby murdering, something so vile and heartless that only a blind ideologue could ever defend it or use it as a “but they were worse” argument.

          Blind ideologues might hate it, but sometimes the two sides are shit, and in the case of IDF and Hamas, they both are, and Palestinians are in between. That still doesn’t give anyone the right to kill children.