• sab@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    It’s possible to blame both. There’s nothing in the comment you’re responding to saying Israel is not a terror state or that they’re not to blame for things going to shit.

    You can absolutely blame Hamas for their actions. And you can blame Israel for Hamas. Responding to completely fair criticism of Hamas by whining that Israel is worse is just whataboutism. They are both terror organizations at this point.

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      1 year ago

      It’s not whataboutism, it’s identifying the root cause of the conflict. They’re absolutely both terror organizations, but criticizing one without criticizing the other equally is taking a clear side.

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      1 year ago

      This is why I’ve stayed out of the fray, everyone here is a bad actor. There are decades of eye for an eye that have resulted in everyone being blind.

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        1 year ago

        Revolutionary militant groups don’t spawn where material conditions are being met. If every Palestinian was “middle class,” Hamas would have never flourished. Which tells you everything about who is to blame.

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          To add to this and as I wrote somewhere else, the Israeli State has for so long made life so hard for Palestinians, especially in the Gaza strip, that there are now tens of thousands of Palestinians with so little to lose that joining an organisation internationally seen as a terrorist organisation is still a step-up from that.

          Reminds me of the parable “the more you squeeze the more sand dissapears between your fingers”.