• EatBorekYouWreck@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Saying Rabin was assassinated by a Zionist is very unfair. Especially since Rabin was one of the biggest Zionist leaders since ever. Yigal Amir (Rabin’s killer) is a Kahanist terrorist. And while self identifying as a Zionist, he probably also opposes most major Zionist leaders across history, from Ben Gurion to Rabin. It’s similar to saying a KKK hate crime was commited by Wstern American patriots.

    Anyway after the murder, Israel had made very serious attempts at peace.

    • Hebron treaty
    • Wye and Sharem memorandums
    • Camp David talks
    • Aqaba, the Geneba Initiative
    • Sharem a-Sheikh summit
    • The unilateral disengagement and freeing of Gaza from Israeli occupation
    • Olmert - Abbas talks
    • The Annapolis Conference
    • The 2010 peace talks
    • The 2013-2014 peace talks

    Some of those were very extensive and Israel made large concessions in the negotiations. Most of the serious attemts were ended by the Palestinians. There’s a saying in israel “The Palestinians never miss the opportunity to miss an opportunity for peace”. Today the Palestinian Authority (PA) has very little legitimacy within the Palestinian population, and arguably don’t represent the Palestinian people. It’s not cut and dry since there hadn’t been any elections in decades, but the sentiment for Hamas and other Palestinian factions and against the PA is very clear.

    • Spzi@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      article 13, “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”[6]

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Charter

      Must be fun to negotiate with a party for peace, who declared in their charter that all this is “a waste of time and vain endeavors”, alongside genocidal racist fantasies.

      Israel politics has it’s own “gems”, but I find the Hamas hard to top. These aren’t accidents, this is all intentional. They don’t want peace.

      • hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest
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        1 year ago

        If I moved into your house without permission and told you I’ll bomb the shit out of you if you look at me funny you wouldn’t accept it right away either.

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          Which is the core reason why there is no peaceful solution.

          Israel was founded as a Jewish ethnostate. Imagine if the same was done but it was a white ethnostate. Who would be the first to move there?

          White nationalists who want a pure white ethnostate, that’s who. That’s what happened in Israel. Those who wanted àto separate themselves from ‘the other’. It’s why there is such a strong radical ethnic based faction of Jews in Israel whose views aren’t reflected in most of the Jewish populations elsewhere.

          Conversely, those who haven’t found a way to flee Gaza over the decades are more likely to believe that they, as an ethnicity, are the rightful owners of the various holy sites and land in the area and the only solution is the removal or subjegation of the Jewish people from the region.

          With both sides having significant and loud sections of their populations calling for the destruction of the other, how can peace ever happen?