• Pretzilla@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      How so? Israel ‘settles’ there in what they call their holy land. Hamas yells Allah Akbar as they kill and take hostages. Are you trolling?

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        It’s not motivated by religion, it’s motivated by real estate, Israel does business and has Allied with other Islamic nations and organizations.

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        No, it has almost nothing to do with religion. The only part of the Israeli-Palestinian crisis that actually tangibly relates to a religious dispute, is the contesting claims over Jerusalem (because it’s holy to both Judaism and Islam).

        Literally the entire rest of the conflict is based on competing nationalist claims.

        Yes, even though Hamas is yelling “Allahu-akbar”. Believe it or not, they’re not fighting because of their religion, they’re fighting because of their political goals (namely in Hamas’ case AFAIK the destruction of Israel). They do also happen to be religious, but the primary conflict is a political one.

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          They do not want to just destruct Israel, they want to kill all Jewish people and want a purely Muslim country. Anti-semitism in the area existed before Israel was created and is a reason why it was created in the first place.

          It’s just often ignored because Jews aren’t a group that people sympathise with. There are also many more Muslim people and even hinting that you do not support everything Palestine does, as a Muslim or not, can make you a target for lots of hate. There are even people who will tell you that you “aren’t a real Muslim” if you support a two-state-solution.

      • WhatTrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Religion is the coat of paint put on top of an occupation that is actually the root cause here.

        Both the Zionists and the Jihadists claim to be inspired by their religion, but the actual cause of the decades-long conflict has little to do with religion and much more to do with decades of occupation and oppression.

      • x86x87@lemmy.one
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        Holy land my ass. Where does it say it’s okay to kill people in their holy texts? They literally have one commandment against murder (thou shall not kill. Anyone? Anyone?). Genocide much?

        As far as Islam goes, murder is again a top sin. In the Qur’an. How can you justify killing people?

        I do agree thought that this is about infighting in the region and religion is a pretext to justify atrocities.

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          The Biblical story of the battle of Jericho certainly seems to condone mass murder of civilians if they’re of the wrong ethnicity. I’m less familiar with the Quran but I’ve read many times that it condones killing in certain contexts as well. All Abrahamic religions are rooted in barbarism.

          • MataVatnik@lemmy.world
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            Abrahamic religions have always been extremist in their nature. If you read history before Christianity you could already see these people were batshit.