Updated: Israel denies involvement in deadly Gaza hospital blast, says explosion caused by Islamic Jihad

    • blitzkrieg@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      You believe it because the US said so? The same country that lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to invade them and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians?

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        9 months ago

        Because they said so, and it was independently verifiable and they brought surveillance that confirmed it. And Gaza clearly lied about the size, location, and scope of the “bombing”. And there’s multiple videos of it.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah, I actually do. I have friends who work for the government and I trust them completely. Crazy, right?

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          9 months ago

          That is indeed crazy.

          Your friends working for the government holds no values, because the government itself, lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to invade them and killed hundreds of thousands of Iraq civilians. What’s your response to that?

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            9 months ago

            My response to that is that the millions of people who live in the USA largely live comfortable, peaceful lives with access to excellent resources like education, jobs, medical care (you can debate the costs/I support single payer, but it’s the best in the world otherwise), national and state parks, etc. I’m happy and I trust my friends in various parts of the government who vouch for their leadership.

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          9 months ago

          Not taking any sides here because I think it’s still unclear what actually happened, but:

          This is a weird point. It’s not like government workers unilaterally know when the people at the top are lying. If your friends are of high enough position to know the truth of the matter, it would be the priority of national security to not share the truth to you, should the truth be something other than what the government claims.

          I can imagine being in your shoes and trusting your friends; that’s always a nice spot to be in. I just don’t see how this claim bolsters your previous argument.

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            9 months ago

            If you want to think it’s a weird point, go ahead. I know many people in our government who separately trust their leadership and the actions of them. I won’t go into specifics but it works for me. Personally, I believe you have to trust and rely on people to get through life successfully, and I choose to skeptically trust our government, particularly the non political parts such as the state department and federal research labs.