Here are the latest casualty figures as of October 24, 2.40pm local time (11:40 GMT):

Gaza

Killed: At least 5,791

Including at least:

2,360 children

1,292 women

Injured: More than 16,297

Occupied West Bank

Killed: At least 96

Injured: At least 1,828

Israel

Killed: At least 1,405

Injured: At least 5,431

  • blewit@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    It’s sad how you are downvoted. It’s the internet version of covering their ears and shouting “I’m not listening.”

    What you are saying is verifiable fact. It sucks terribly for the Palestinian people, and they, absolutely are victims, too. But that’s on Hamas, not Israel. But people love to hate the Jews so they won’t listen to facts. You (and I) are wasting time with this battle.

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      1 year ago

      I think what you fail to grasp is that for some people “it’s on Hamas” doesn’t change the the ethical calculus. It doesn’t diminish their feeling of empathy towards the victims and their families.

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        1 year ago

        So what’s the alternative? Not pressure Hamas with rockets to free the hostages is probably not an option because of how diabolically they planned their bases of operations next to hospitals, schools or inside civilian buildings.

        So Israel should try to go in with the army on foot and evacuate building by building by force? Sure that will be no problem especially given that Hamas will 100% pose as civilians during those raids and attack Israel from behind with all the tunnels underneath Gaza - so every soldier there would be extremely paranoid - no way that can go wrong.

        Not doing anything and letting Hamas take hostages and kill thousands is not an option either - so calling for evacuation and then targeting legitimate targets by international law is the correct course of action even though I agree that it’s an extremely shitty situation for the civilians there.

        At least the civilians killed by Israel are killed by accident and not fully intentional like Hamas is doing.

        Everyone can agree that the civilians in Gaza are the poorest party in this but imho people fail to grasp the situation from different viewpoints and see it for how complex it is.