Hamas says Israel's strikes on refugee camp kill more than 195 people
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More foreigners prepared to leave the besieged Gaza Strip on Thursday as its Hamas-run government said at least 195 Palestinians died in Israeli attacks on the Jabalia refugee camp, strikes that Israel said had killed Hamas commanders.
  • Hamas-run government says Israeli strikes on Jabalia refugee camp in Gaza killed at least 195 Palestinians, with concerns raised by the UN that these could constitute war crimes.
  • Evacuation of foreign nationals from Gaza is underway, with 320 already crossed into Egypt; about 7,500 are expected to leave within two weeks.
  • The strikes targeted Hamas military leaders and infrastructure, with Israel’s campaign responding to Hamas’ cross-border attacks from Oct. 7.
  • U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is set to visit Israel and Jordan to discuss the conflict and the need to minimize civilian casualties.

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  • blitzkrieg@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    No, that’s the perspective of anyone with common sense.

    You don’t negotiate for peace with some that occupies you and wants to give you a smaller piece of your land.

    Did you expect the native Americans to just give away their land?

    Do you expect Ukraine to give away their land? If Russia won their war on Ukraine, will the world be like “Heh, they won, Ukraine in Russian now.”? The answer is no.

    • DarkGamer@kbin.social
      02·
      1 year ago

      You don’t negotiate for peace with some that occupies you and wants to give you a smaller piece of your land.

      Then current trends will continue and they will likely end up with less and less until they have nothing. Palestine has no viable path to military victory, it takes more than outrage to win wars. One ignores the realpolitik of their situation at their own peril.

      Did you expect the native Americans to just give away their land?

      They lost their ancestral lands and have since pacified themselves, because war with the US is unwinnable. Today they have freedom of movement, freedom of return, and full US citizenship. Compare this to how Gaza is faring today.

      Do you expect Ukraine to give away their land?

      Ukraine still has a viable path to conventional military victory against Russia.

      If Russia won their war on Ukraine, will the world be like “Heh, they won, Ukraine in Russian now.”? The answer is no.

      They would eventually do exactly this, but I think Ukraine will win. Borders have changed massively throughout human history and eventually the new ones get recognized, because most countries don’t ignore the realpolitik of one’s situation like Palestine has.

      • blitzkrieg@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Israeli settlers already kill Palestinians and steal their land, there’s no peace with Israel.

        It seems like you suggest people should not fight for their freedom and land and should just give up. That’s a very cowardly point of view.

        And yeah obviously Ukraine can still win, because the entire world is helping them, the world is also helps Israel and turns a blind on the massacres happening in Palestine.