• Grayox@lemmy.mlOP
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      Aight, I’ll call your bluff, give me 22 things he was wrong about. I’ll wait.

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        That would require reading Marx lol. These hot takes usually come from reactionaries mimicking what they hear from other reactionaries/charlatans/media towing the stateline. Marx was wrong about some things of course, like the revolutions to a democratically worker owned economy would come from the industrialized centres. But knowing about the ideas which are critical of our current economic system is dangerous to a few, and freeing to the majority.

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        In his book, he charts the course of human history and tries to predict where it will end up. He comes to the conclusion that a violent revolution will soon come to pass as the workers overthrow their bosses and start sharing resources.

        “Soon come to pass” was 150 years ago, the Revolution hasn’t happened. Marxist scholars since then have been recreating the letters between early Christians asking why He hadn’t returned yet as promised and pushing the date of the Second Coming back.

        In my opinion, Marx wrote his conclusion first, then cherry picked the points in history that supported his conclusion.

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          In my opinion, Marx wrote his conclusion first, then cherry picked the points in history that supported his conclusion.

          I can’t fathom the arrogance of people who say “Marx just didn’t think of x, y or z”. He invariably did, and a quote is easily found to prove them wrong. Yet they continue to say this bollocks. “Marx didn’t consider human nature, Marx didn’t know about x obscure economic theory,” on and on until the cows come home. Capital has 3 volumes, and each is thick and heavy enough to make a decent murder weapon. They are so long precisely because he did do the thinking you accuse him of not doing.

          The one single thing we can legitimately say he didn’t anticipate was the computer revolution, and it in fact only strengthens his theories, as digital technology has gone on to strengthen the hold of capital, and laid bare its incestuous relationship with the State.

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          There hasn’t been any anti-capitalist revolutions in the last 150 year.

          Maybe read a history book?

          I seems to recall the US losing a war to communists in the 1970s for instance.

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            any

            I don’t think their point was that no revolution has happened but the revolution to change it all didn’t happen like he assumed

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              Marx didn’t consider capitalists holding the world hostage with nuclear weapons

              plenty of successful revolutions did occur though, just not in places under the control of the ‘west’

              very chauvinistic view to hold IMO