Cmon, from the river to the sea has been a thing that 1 state solution people have said for a while, it was popularized by the PLO. I genuinely don’t know what else could be associated with it unless you’re thinking about it in the least charitable way possible.
The PLO popularized it… At a time where their explicit goals were “expel the Jews and create an Arab ethnostate in its place.”
Maybe using the political rallying cry of the pre-Oslo Accord PLO shouldn’t be where you start your “No, we really just want peace and a country where Jews and Arabs can live in harmony considering the stance of the people who made the statement was “Jews have no home in Palestine”
I mean that’s just wrong. The stance of the PLO in 1964 was we want a palestinian state, jews of palestinian origin are also palestinian and should be included. This was changed in 1968 to jews who lived in palestine before the invasion are palestinian
Saying “I’ll only accept Jews who lived here in the period where Jewish immigration and landownership were banned” (Ottoman banned Jewish immigration and landownership in 1881) is not at all “We intend to live peacefully with the Jews who were expelled from all the neighboring Arab countries and have nowhere to go”
That isn’t antisemetic, that’s anti-settler. Jewish immigration into Palestine was not a peaceful process, and 20 years before the PLO charter, 700,000 Palestinians were ethnically cleansed by Zionist militias. You can’t seriously be saying that the PLO was antisemetic because it didn’t think settlers were palestinian.
I’m saying a massive amount of the Jews in Israel were also ethnically cleansed by largely the same people who ran the war in ‘48. It’s hard to take you seriously that you are concerned about ethnic cleansing when you’re overlooking that a huge amount of the Jews were displaced into Israel by the exact same event as the catastrophe. Saying they have no right to be there and they need to leave is just as much calling for a genocide as if Israel told all of Gaza “this isn’t your land and if you stay here, you die”
Also, note that they’re not telling all settlers to go. Only Jewish settlers.
C. S. Jarvis, Governor of the Sinai from 1923-1936, noted: ‘This illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Trans-Jordan and Syria and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining States could not be kept from going in to share that misery.’
Cmon, from the river to the sea has been a thing that 1 state solution people have said for a while, it was popularized by the PLO. I genuinely don’t know what else could be associated with it unless you’re thinking about it in the least charitable way possible.
The PLO popularized it… At a time where their explicit goals were “expel the Jews and create an Arab ethnostate in its place.”
Maybe using the political rallying cry of the pre-Oslo Accord PLO shouldn’t be where you start your “No, we really just want peace and a country where Jews and Arabs can live in harmony considering the stance of the people who made the statement was “Jews have no home in Palestine”
I mean that’s just wrong. The stance of the PLO in 1964 was we want a palestinian state, jews of palestinian origin are also palestinian and should be included. This was changed in 1968 to jews who lived in palestine before the invasion are palestinian
Saying “I’ll only accept Jews who lived here in the period where Jewish immigration and landownership were banned” (Ottoman banned Jewish immigration and landownership in 1881) is not at all “We intend to live peacefully with the Jews who were expelled from all the neighboring Arab countries and have nowhere to go”
That’s exactly the point.
That isn’t antisemetic, that’s anti-settler. Jewish immigration into Palestine was not a peaceful process, and 20 years before the PLO charter, 700,000 Palestinians were ethnically cleansed by Zionist militias. You can’t seriously be saying that the PLO was antisemetic because it didn’t think settlers were palestinian.
I’m saying a massive amount of the Jews in Israel were also ethnically cleansed by largely the same people who ran the war in ‘48. It’s hard to take you seriously that you are concerned about ethnic cleansing when you’re overlooking that a huge amount of the Jews were displaced into Israel by the exact same event as the catastrophe. Saying they have no right to be there and they need to leave is just as much calling for a genocide as if Israel told all of Gaza “this isn’t your land and if you stay here, you die”
Also, note that they’re not telling all settlers to go. Only Jewish settlers.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4282493#:~:text=Total Arab settled population in,to 463%2C288%2C or by 141%2C422.