• BombOmOm@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The apologists here keep trying to act like Hamas isn’t literally the government of Palestine in Gaza. It’s as crazy as saying Russia did not invade Ukraine, only the Putin administration invaded Ukraine.

    • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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      1 year ago

      I get that it’s kind of a third party in the state at this point… But Hamas clearly stems from Palestine no matter what way you look at it. And Palestine still claims control over Gaza… So there’s no functional way to argue anything otherwise without outright lying. It’s of Palestinian origin… was put in place by Palestine… The fact that it might have shifted away from strictly Fatah-based Palestinian control doesn’t change anything. The worst part is… it seems that the Hamas “takeover” was a proper election. So it’s solely on Palestines hands that Hamas exists as far as I can tell.

      What I hope people don’t do is assume that I’m condone all of Israel’s actions… since you know… I haven’t brought that up at all. I’m willing to bet all the downvotes are literally those people.

      • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        The Hamas party ran on a moderate platform, Israel came in and murdered almost all of the elected leaders six months after they took office. The people who replaced them were not elected and did not have moderate values. They also decided not to have elections anymore. Half of the people who were alive for that election are dead. I don’t feel comfortable with this whole “Well, they’ve made their bed and now they can sleep in it while Israel indiscriminately bombs it” mentality.

    • MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      You know Putin came to power through extremely questionable circumstances in 2001 and the “re-elections” have only gotten worse over the last 22 years, ya? But sure, blame civilians because the government pretends to be democratic.

      It would not be right to confine and then bomb Russians either.