• NewDark@lemmings.world
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, they’re the only militant force with any level of power seen as potential liberators from a violent oppressive force that has only served to fuck them over.

    Hamas exists because of Israel and Israel’s actions, not because Palestinians are some barbaric angry subhumans. They have never even been that popular.

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      They have never even been that popular.

      So when they win an election for Gaza under Palestine authority… in 2006… and it’s recorded history… They’re not popular? I would saying winning control of a territory through normal political actions… That’s probably pretty popular and you’re attempting to retcon actual history.

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        1 year ago

        Also, if you’re American, you should understand how deeply unpopular candidates can win elections. Hell, plenty don’t even need a popular vote!

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          Hell, plenty don’t even need a popular vote!

          LMAO You’re the type of person that states that Trump shouldn’t have won 2016 because they didn’t win the popular vote… Then someone compare that to this… forgetting that he was ~1% less “popular” than Clinton. Someone who can get over 60 million votes is pretty “popular”.

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            This is absolutely hilarious. I get to see someone truly warp their mind to justify winning with fewer votes than your opponent. And the best part is you’re not even talking about the electoral college, just simply “yes it’s less votes but he’s still popular!”

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              I get to see someone truly warp their mind to justify winning with fewer votes than your opponent.

              Even more hilarious is that I didn’t vote for Trump and I’m not a republican. So now you look real foolish. If you read the context of the actual discussion it’s clear what the point is. You just love shitting on people you think are (R)

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              No shit Sherlock? Hamas got 44% of the popular vote. That’s not “unpopular”. No matter what definition you’re using. Popular != majority.

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        They were at 34% support in the pols the day before the election, then won with 44%. Suspect? Also the Israeli government came in and murdered almost the entire government soon after the election, most of whom were pro Israel. Their replacements were not pro Israel. They stopped holding elections after that. (iTs ReCOrdEd hIsToRee!)

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        Yes.

        Moderate candidates split the vote, and exit polls at the time showed like 80% of people wanted to work toward peace.

        They also ran on being anti corruption and pious, and the other candidates absolutely had corruption issues.