• grue@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      MLK has been dead for 50+ years. Claiming he has a position on Netanyahu’s genocidal tactics is utter nonsense.

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        It’s almost like this conflict extends back a long time, and the root causes of it, and cited motivations for violence, haven’t changed since his time.

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          It’s almost like it’s bad-faith trolling to pretend root causes are relevant when we’re actually talking about Israel’s current tactics. It’s pretty fucking disgusting that you apparently can’t agree that genocide is wrong no matter who started it.

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            Israel’s current tactics are the result of the position it finds itself in, fighting against a guerilla terrorist government in a densely populated urban area. And that’s because of a long causal chain of events going back to the root causes. King was alive during most of what Palestine considers instigating events, the Nakba, the '67 war…

            Only one side of this conflict explicitly intends to commit genocide, and it’s not Israel. Only one side did commit genocide when they had the upper hand, and it wasn’t Israel. Historical context is relevant and not just yesterday’s tactics, considered in a vacuum.

            Although war is tragic, I don’t consider this a genocide. Eliminating an ethnic group is clearly not Israel’s intention or motivation. If it were they could have easily done so by now and they haven’t for obvious reasons. I oppose genocide, I don’t oppose self-defense. This is about safety for them.

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              Eliminating an ethnic group is clearly not Israel’s intention or motivation.

              https://kbin.social/m/worldnews@lemmy.ml/t/588452/Israeli-Government-Mulls-Forcible-Permanent-Transfer-of-2-2-Million-Gaza

              If Israel wanted to change their position, they’d think seriously about peace. The last administration who did was Rabin’s, and he got assassinated for it.

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                20% of Israel’s population is Arab with full citizenship rights. Why are Arabs in Gaza being treated the way they are, is it because they are ethnically Arab, or because they are a belligerent and violent nation? Clearly the latter.

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                The last administration who did was Rabin’s, and he got assassinated for it

                Could be part of why the current administration doesn’t want to try it.

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                  The current administration is often blamed for said assassination, including by his widow. Bibi held a rally where he engaged in what many consider stochastic terrorism.