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    But over time, the communities I liked have faded as shitposting and meme communities have come to dominate the platform.

    That is perfectly normal with almost any social media platform, forums included.

    There seems to be more of a herd mentality now, where people downvote reasonable opinions they disagree with.

    This seems to be because of the large number of US selfcentered liberals that decided to stick to the platform after the Reddit migration. There is no solution for that. Everyone has a voice on the internet.

    The discussions don’t feel as nuanced.

    Agreed.

    Some people have even been attacked for innocuous comments that don’t align with the prevailing groupthink.

    Mhm, keep going…

    I want Lemmy to succeed, but right now I’m finding myself drawn back to Reddit because the niche communities there seem more active.

    The dust settled down, most people moved back to Reddit. This was inevitable. Change is a hard thing for most people, even more so when you have to deal with a completely different set of rules and choices you previously had no control over (like choosing an instance).

    I’ll keep checking in, but Lemmy needs to recapture its original spirit if I’m going to make it my main home.

    Don’t mean to bust your balls, but this will probably never happen. There will be ups and downs in the user count on Lemmy and the fediverse, based on how bad the other commercial social media platforms are doing, but a significant spike?.. as with the Reddit migration?.. not likely. That was a one time thing, and it only happened because this was never tried before. Now that it has, this will likely not be a viable alternative for most people that want to migrate. Hosting my own seever, paying fees or doing it on a someone else’s server, just so that it goes down and takes down the content with it 🤨. Trust me, this is not an option most people are OK with. People like stability and sustainability (especially in niche communities, memes and shitpoats don’t need that at all) and that is one thing that the fediverse can’t give them… unless you host your own instance… but then you have to pay fees 😒.

    Bottom line, Lemmy and the fediverse is good for tech enthusiasts, nothing more. If everyone on the planet knew how to configure and run a Linux server, docker and all that, 90% of TLDs were free, yes, it will most probably thrive, but if any of these conditions are not met… probably not.

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      This is incredibly well-put and true.its a shame really as well. With the current state of lemmy it’s only going see a downward spiral

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        There was a peak, everyone enjoyed it, it was fun (for about 2 or 3 months)… then people started realizing this will probably never be a true place for niche stuff and started to go back to Reddit… plus mods started to abuse power, instances strted defederating in bulk whoever they see fit (which is not what the fediverse is all about… it should be a last resort 🤦), which of course pissed off users (let’s face it, if you’re on Reddit, you can see all of Reddit, not just parts of it). Now, there isn’t a single instance that isn’t defederated from at least one other instance. That and instances going dark over nigh (you go to sleep, can’t log in the next day, find out that your instance is lost in cyberspace)… yeah, that kinda tipped the scale for normies I think.

        As I said, it’s good enough for techies, but normal users, nah… they want stability. They wanna be able to find a post that they posted 10 years ago and link to it. On Lemmy… there is no guarantee for that, especially if you’re on a smaller instance.

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          I mean I’ve only been on here for a month and still manged to make a name for myself I “moderate” a very niche shitposting community had my first shitpost get to the top in c/all and piss off most of .ml and watched mutiple instances just go pop and leave for a pack of cigarettes and some milk including one of the largest ones and i still can’t wrap my head round how all this works why the fuck is there so much “drama” why the and why the fuck is half of lemmy always so fucking angry is my quintessential question

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            It’s because the snowflake liberal techies are the ones that are left using Lemmy now 🤷… sorry, but that’s the truth… the extreme right and left wingers are no better though, so that basically makes up of about 90% of the Lemmy userbase now. The normies are gone. They tried it, some got pissed about the bannings, some about defederation, some about instances going dark and they went back to reddit 🤷.

            There also seems to be shadow banning now (though I have no idea how it’s done here on Lemmy). I posted this a few hours ago… no comments, no upvotes, no downvotes… this is the 2nd post that I get no replies on. I asked people on Lemmy if they could see it, some could, some couldn’t but none of them got the post on their feed.

            And this basically means that I’d have to switch accounts again (the first few times were because instances went dark over night), because someone decided to shadow ban me for… god knows what reason 😒.

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              Prehaps if your worried about shadow banning you should consider switching to the .world instance as in my experience they tend to be quite lenient over there could also be that people aren’t interested in your memes comedy’s subjective after all what some people may find funny others may not although this is the .ml instance which is the instance which the dev is on and he has a history for shit like this

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                The weird thing is, there are no upvotes or downvotes. I’ve been downvoted to oblivion before, it’s not news to me, it’s the lack of it that makes me think that.

                Fuck it, I’ll switch instances again.

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                Yes, that seems to be the issue.

                To be honest, with all the banning and defederation goin on on Lemmy right now, I really thought that it might be a feature now or that someone implemented custom code to make it a feature.