• Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml
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    From all the reports I’ve seen they were treated nicely, given the same food as the guards and the ones in critical condition were released. They can’t really help Israel killing hostages in airstrikes.

    Edit: Rather than downvote read an actual account from one of the released hostages https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/24/middleeast/israel-hostages-freed-lifshitz-cooper-intl-hnk/index.html

    She says she was beaten during the actual kidnapping, but after that the treatment was generous, with the same food as the guards and access to doctors and femenine hygiene products.

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      They can’t really help Israel killing hostages in airstrikes.

      How about not fucking kidnapping people and taking them hostage? “Oh we can’t help if people die while we keep them imprisoned in our hospital fortress while we keep shooting thousands of rockets at Israel.” Fucking ridiculous

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          Why did they murder, rape, and kidnap? Because they’re terrorists. That’s what terrorists do.

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            So it has nothing to do with the thousands of Palestinians held as political prisoners, the hundreds that Israel had murdered just this year prior to October 7th, or the well-documented and internationally condemned acceleration of illegal settlement creation and expansion? They just hate Israel’s freedom? Is that it?

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        I’m not defending their actions, but under their circumstances it isn’t surprising they behaved how they did.

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          Then there’s a “fuck around and find out” kinda thing happening, no?

          Israel shouldn’t stop until every member of Hamas and Hezbollah are dead. The people of Iran and Palestine would do well to put them in the crosshairs.

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            It’s almost as if it’s a cycle of violence. Maybe both parties could make some progress towards peace if they’d just stop killing each other’s children.

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              Yup. Alternatively build a giant wall to separate them so they cannot hurt each other for a few generations and then try again.

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          You just can’t hold Hamas accountable, it’s all Israel’s fault for using force. Somehow it’s not Hamas’ fault for committing the act of terrorism and war crimes that lead to this situation in the first place. It’s like blaming someone for shooting a home invader who planned to rape and kill your family. It’s not the homeowners fault they had to shoot them, it’s the rapist/murderer’s fault for being there.

          That being said Israel’s government is just as violent and bloodthirsty as radical islam, they’re just supported by the West due to Zionism and the idea that “might makes right” means the Israelis are able to commit any atrocity and get away with it because they’re “gods chosen people.”

          What bullshit, fuck the both of them. Abrahamic religions have been holding humanity back for thousands of years.

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      The remaining hostages include Lifshitz and Cooper’s husbands, Oded Lifshitz, 83, and Amiram Cooper, 85.

      I, too, would have only the best to say about my kidnappers if they still hold my husband hostage. How fucking naive and stupid can one be?

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        Exactly. That’s the reason she was released, they still have leverage over her with her husband. I’m sure there is a threat if she says something publicly that makes them look bad. So essentially she is a PR tool.

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        Could you share a link? I was going by the news I’ve seen.

        You call me delusional but I’m the only one to link actual evidence.

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            The Reuters link mention no such claims, only that Hamas claimed it was due to an air strike.

            The second link only has claims from the IDF, which still says she was initially wounded by an Israeli air strike before being murdered.

            The third link mentions the hand loss by grenade yes, but they s was during the initial attack and capture, not while they were kept as hostages.