• sailingbythelee@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    25
    ·
    1 year ago

    You aren’t very up-to-date on modern warfare if you think Israel is trying to cause as many civilian casualties as possible.

    Fareed Zakaria reported this past weekend that Israel has the dropped the equivalent tonnage of two nuclear bombs on Gaza and 18,000 people have died. Yes, of course that’s bad, but two actual nuclear bombs, or the equivalent tonnage dropped indiscriminately, would probably have killed hundreds of thousands. They obviously aren’t trying to kill as many civilians as possible. The hyperbole isn’t helpful.

    • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      1 year ago

      Because if you do it slow, people like you won’t notice, until it’s too late, and then you’ll just say that we should forgive them because it’s in the past

      They said they’re keeping Gaza.

      • rivermonster@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        No, he’s saying they could have removed ALL of Gaza without any invasion, IF they didn’t care about avoiding civilian casualties.

        Pretending they’re intentionally trying to murder civilians like the elected government of Gaza did in October is disingenuous.

        If Israel were intentionally targeting civilians, they’d have killed WAY more than 18,000–by literally magnitudes.

        • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          Because if you do it slow, people like you won’t notice, until it’s too late, and then you’ll just say that we should forgive them because it’s in the past

          • rivermonster@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            The faster we can kill every member of Hamas, the better. The sooner we can ease the suffering of the Palestinians being used by Hamas, the better.

            • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              1 year ago

              Would you say the same if your mother or child was one of those people killed in collateral damage to something they had nothing to do with?

              • rivermonster@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                1 year ago

                If someone pulled an October attack on me and killed my family, there would be no safe haven for them anywhere.

                If someone pulled a Hamas on my family intentionally drawing fire to them and getting them killed, same thing. No safe haven.

                • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  3
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  That’s not what I asked.

                  I asked how you would feel if your mother or child, who had nothing to do with it; got killed because of someone else’s hard on for revenge.

                  So, I ask you again, if your family has nothing to do with the situation, but gets killed anyway, you would be OK with that because someone else is getting their revenge right?